I hope that people are starting to understand why war powers shouldn't be hogged by one dipshit.
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1ply or 2ply?
This is a stated intent to destroy, or set in motion events that will destroy, much of the oil and power infrastructure in several countries .
I really hope this is only a manipulation of the markets , because otherwise things will never be the same.
Americans have a duty to make this not happen
American voted for this to happen. And remain at 40% approval of the guy.
I don’t think Americans ever got a choice in the matter. Trump ran as an anti war candidate, about a third of Trump supporters do not support this war, and the majority of Americans are opposed to it.
None of that matters. The fact is that obese orange thing still got elected by the direct or indirect actions of voting for, or 'protesting' by not voting at all.
Even if you take away all the paedophilia 'accusations' ;-);-), and the bankruptcies and corruption etc etc etc and then solely go with what that fat cunt did during the first term then that should be enough for any intelligent person to not vote for that thing again. But no, that's just too much for the rest of the fucking world to ask for!!
I don't give a shit what the average american is opposed to when the rest of the world have to also suffer the consequences of electing in a dementia riddled, warmongering, tyrannical old twat with the temperament and bowel habits of a tantrumming toddler.
Even if you take away all the paedophilia ‘accusations’
At this point you can just say "the fact that he's a pedophile"
Also, I feel like you're attributing too many grandiose-in-a-bad-way adjectives to him. He's just a spoiled unloved rich kid with a two digit IQ who has managed to surround himself with two digit IQ lackies.
People supporting him is not nearly as important as who can stop it in the next day
'The establishment owes me an easy choice, otherwise i hold my breath at home!!!!'
Trumps approval rating still sits at 40 % (https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker).
Something's seriously wrong with your people, USA...
brainrot through social media / smartphones, coupled with propaganda.
We have the brainrot already in Europe - if our propaganda were as strong, we'd be just as bad, sadly.
Great. Were gonna save iran juat like we saved gaza! Cuba next!
Happy yet, sitouts?
Fucking USA wars. Would he make such a big war, and threaten them with nuclear obliteration, if they weren't on the other side of the globe? No. Cowards.
And yes, many Iranian power plants are nuclear. Nice of you to not mention that, asshole potus.
Of course the fallout would still be bad - not only for US "allies" in Europe but also in the US. But realizing that would require some mental effort so it doesn't count.
many Iranian power plants are nuclear.
None of them are. It was always a mistake for them to accept Russia's help towards a peaceful energy program, because Israel evil would permanently make accusations as path to this war. There is a plant under construction which was hit yesterday.
If y’all don’t change ma diaper really soon…
I don't think that's how you get someone to cooperate voluntarily.
Nevertheless, I thought Pete Hegseth said the Strait is open already save for a totally minor obstacle to safe shipping, that Trump or anyone shouldn't worry about.
As a US citizen I wonder if this is how 1930s Germans felt?
Well except a large portion of us feel the orange shit gibbon is a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.
And a large portion of Germans also felt that hitler was a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.
Actualt as the nazi party never won the majority of seats the us is actually more complainant to the current regime.
The idea that Hitler was some sort of genius supervillain is a myth mostly propagated by movies and video games. It’s a shame, because I think this notion made it more difficult for many people to understand what trump was as he was clawing at power.
In reality, Hitler was an incompetent moron, and the similarities with trump are uncanny.
going full Putin ?
This feels more “Full Netanyahu” to me. Putin is calculating and cold. Netanyahu seems to have a flair for cruelty.
Giving out an ultimatum to blow up civilian infrastructure is a war crime right
Sadly, the world isn’t going to so anything about it. The World has more or less greenlit Israel’s genocide. If anything the world is going to run and support the US in reopening the Strait to allow the flow of oil.
The oil must flow.
Add it to the pile over there... gestures out of the window to a heap that closely resembles mount Everest
And so shortly after he fooled so many with his latest ‘winding down’ statement.
I'm not sure if he's really thought this one through.
Doesn't look like he's left himself a lot of wiggle room to back down.
I don't think Iran is going to comply.
edit: I kinda wonder why Iran isn't pushing a lot harder to manipulate public opinion. Fake photos of petrol prices. Rumours of fuel shortages. Rumours about the Trump family profiting somehow. Rumours that Bibi was going to release unredacted Epstein Kompromat. Plans to draft people for war in Iran. Even the dems could be doing this really.
I kinda wonder why Iran isn't pushing a lot harder to manipulate public opinion.
They do. I have seen public statements by Iranian officials, and even memes (mostly AI), here on lemmy.
But they're mostly in Parsi and Arabic, since that's the audience they care about. Iran is trying to end the US threat against them, which probably means removing US bases in the Middle East and getting the Gulf powers on their side. So they don't talk about rising fuel prices, they talk about Palestine, the massacre of the schoolgirls, and freedom in general.
It does not need to be fake photos. The financial cost is real, a trump is blatant about his family corruption.
Even if there was a media campaign the USA is a controlled media, so it wouldn’t be shown, if it did people would either forgive it because USA is always a winner attitude or they would disassociate blame AI etc.
You had citizens being shot and that was not enough to provoke a turn around.
So I have a crackpot theory.....
The Mueller tweet and now this, I'm starting to actually believe this isn't Trump at all, and this is a team conspiring to 25th him and give them an out of the Iran situation.
Like "ok, we admit it he's gone nuts, so whoopsie and Iran don't worry we will make this right so let's just settle down now"
I think this is Trump. He hears the footsteps coming, so he's getting desperate, and doing anything he can to stop the inevitable.
Great. A demented, desperate octogenarian criminal piece of shit human with his thumb on the nuclear trigger. Good job all you asshole voters!
He could try what Adolf did when the walls were closing in on him. That might be the only thing he could do this week to boost his approval numbers.
Yea I know I would totally trust a country that killed my family, continues to bomb me, and murdered a school full of kids simply because "whoopsie doopsie the guy running the show was out of his mind"
They can but Iran isnt going to back down for a promise.
Seems to be 2 Trump options that tie into what was reported as extortion of GCC for $5T for war, 2.5T for peace. It doesn't so much have to be a bribe as the outcome of each option.
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US withdraws, leaving Gulf security to rest of world. = loss of past US support for their regimes. CIA/Mossad is very good at making colour revolutions in countries that are not loving of the USA. ie. all recognized democracies.
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War crimes against Iranian civilians. IRGC destroys GCC water infrastructure, and keeps them blockaded of food and money including more damage to energy exporting capacity. Oil to $300+
The entirety of the US colonial world rulerships need a longer debate on whether US/Israel alliance is worth preserving over the US resorting to war crimes to avoid quickly losing the war, but risking far more permanent global destruction.
World fixing Gulf security without US is easy, and better than any longer war. EU shouldn't care if it pays for oil in CNY. GCC still siding against Iran after the war started makes their destruction deserved. Ending US empire is their path to not face colour revolutions, and directly fighting Israel in response to colour revolution agitation is their path to get population on their side.
Should be a natural alliance with countries that offer useful trade, instead of political capture by the wealthiest. This is a moment for world to restrain/distance itself from US power, and will expose the corruption of colonial system if not. The same applies to Israel's master relationship to US, where Americans may not understand the benefit of supporting genocidal evil, that will be directed towards them, eventually.

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