We legalized marijuana too!
I don’t smoke weed and I don’t have a uterus, but I voted to protect both and I’m glad we won!
We legalized marijuana too!
I don’t smoke weed and I don’t have a uterus, but I voted to protect both and I’m glad we won!
Issue 1 covers so much more than just Abortion.
From the ballot:
This is a Freedom of Speech type amendment that centers around a person's reproductive rights. In that this amendment prohibits the Ohio State government from passing any law that restricts a person's reproductive rights except in special cases under strict scrutiny. So this goes way pass just abortion. Additionally, it grants doctors benefit of the doubt protections that would have strict scrutiny bars for the State to overcome, an incredibly high evidentiary bar for the State to overcome.
To just say this protects abortion is really missing the forest for the tree. Yeah, it protects abortion but additionally it protects everything related to reproductive rights (contraception, IVF, etc) and sets a massive barrier for the State to later meddle. This is a massive win for not those seeking abortion but for everyone who cheers reproductive protection and Government non-intervention in such matters.
It doesn't say reproductive rights are free speech, it says they are as important as free speech.
I could actually cry right now, what a fucking relief
It's also by a pretty decent margin so far:
With 59% reporting:
55.9% For
44.1% Against
Edit:
56.6% For
43.4% against
I don't live in Ohio, but I'm right on the state border. So many "vote no on issue 1" signs around here. I was worried that it would fail. Glad to see otherwise.
It's been polling consistently strong. Those signs you were seeing on the border are not representative of where the majority of Ohioans live.
What people need to take away from this is that the majority very often want things that are denied to them by a minority of voters who have been given disproportionate control.
What were seeing is direct democracy in action. No gerrymandered districts, just the people voting for what they fuck they want, and majority rules.
If we had more of that (not full direct democracy 24/7 but more than we have now) you'd see a lot more popular things actually get done.
There's danger there, populism is a double edged sword, but the opposite extreme is what we have now: a majority of people consistently and perpetually having their will undermined by a minority entirely because of their zip code, while the Republicans the minority gives power to continue to make this even worse.
When you actually look at national polling, the majority of people want a lot of things that have no hope of ever making it through Congress any time in the near future because of obstruction from red states that get disproportionate power entirely because of geography. This is untenable.
Issue 2, legalizing recreational marijuana for people over 21, is also projected to pass.
Psychedelics need to be next. That step will take a bit, but it'll be awesome if that happens.
Colorado did good in setting the example, I believe. There wasn't a huge push to monetize it and the most common psychedelics were made fully legal to produce, use and give away.
In some ways, I don't really see mushrooms easily fitting into the dispensary model that we have here already. It's just a different kind of drug, s'all.
And this is after they tried very very hard to rig the election to put obstacles in the way of people voting for the measure.
Actually getting abortion bans in place is the "dog that caught the car" moment for Republicans. The world is so complicated and people have so little attention to spare, that the GOP can get away with blaming "the economy" or "jobs" or "crime" on the Democrats, and for the most part, people who support them will go with it, even though they spend most of their time being in power making the problems worse and stealing money for themselves and their friends.
Abortion is dead simple. If people know someone who's suffering in a terrifying way, and it's because of something the Republicans have been banging their fists on the table about how bad they want to do it for the last fifty years, it becomes a lot harder to shift the blame.
Edit: I backwards
When Kansas and then Ohio thoroughly shoot holes in your platform and you're the dominant party in those places, maybe you should start re-thinking your platform.
No, it's the voters who are wrong
Greene's takeaway was literally "we're losing because we're not extreme enough on abortion.'
I guess that means Republicans will start proposing that any woman who even thinks of getting an abortion should be thrown in prison and any woman who suffers a miscarriage should be tried for murder.
Then, they'll wonder why they are losing even worse!
There are already states that have been trying to criminalize miscarriages unless they can be "proven" to not be the result of an abortion.
As a Michigander this is physically painful to say... but you done good Ohio.
I wouldn't say "antiquated" so much as "broken."
The concept of polling is perfectly reasonable and sound. But today, it's just physically hard to do. You've got to reach a representational sample, but if you're under 50, you're probably not answering unknown numbers calling your cellphone.
This results in oversampling of populations you can actually reach, such as older Americans with landlines, and then trying to weight the results with other information sources, like demographics data.
The more weighting you have to do, the more opportunities there are for problems to creep in.
If we could solve the sampling problem, polling would be easier and more reliable.
I live in a swing state, in a purple county, which has recently flipped back to blue. Last week polls were saying it was likely to go red.
I get multiple texts and phone calls from pollsters and have never answered any of them. I doubt anyone in my age group ot demographic are doing differently.
I truly believe that, like the economy, polling on paper is so divorced from the reality on the ground that it is useless.
Anyone else notice how the "why do you want to kill babies" crowd has fallen mostly silent on these posts? It's almost like they never had any real horse in this race, and now that most of them aren't being paid to stir people up they've got nothing to say.
The real ones probably just got tired of seeing /\ 2 \/ 101 underneath their posts and slunk back underneath their bridge
FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! This is some great fucking news for everyone with more then a single braincell.
The right wing fought SO HARD to prevent his from happening.
But it's not like the loss is going to do anything to change their beliefs or actions.
Fuck yeah! You love to see it!! I was a poll worker today and the turnout was incredible. I obviously don't know who voted for what but it was great to see.
Get scared repubs. Maybe there is a pendulum.
I am from another country. I have to say that in your movies and shows they have always painted Ohio as being a backwards state. I guess that this goes to show that everything changes. Now Ohio seems to be more civilized than a lot of other states that were the "modern" standard. I love change, it's so refreshing to see new generations at last making a change statewide.
Ohio as being a backwards state.
The People that LIVE in Ohio are not nearly as backwards as the gerrymandered elections elect representatives from.
Clearly, this result is absolute proof that the gerrymandering of Ohio is ABSOLUTELY NOT properly representing the WILL of actual Ohio Voters .
Not quite. It's just that abortion is such a powerful issue that it activates the left to actually get out and vote. Any time it has been on a ballot, it wins, and democrats tend to win other positions on that same ballot.
The government of Ohio is backwards, every Ohioan ive met has been fucking great.
Ohio native here. You can't have met many Ohioans.
This is wonderful! It's a great day when the voice of justice for the people can cancel out unrepresentative government!
This is also a great example of why federal referendums would be a game changer. Thanks to gerrymandering an enormous incumbent advantage and an even bigger incumbent PARTY advantage, most politicians in Washington tend to be a decade or two behind their constituents on most issues, if not in a completely different world. Asking voters directly could shake that up.
Sadly, it would probably require a constitutional amendment which is already de facto impossible BEFORE you take into account that most people in Congress would be against it, but a guy can dream!
Ohio still sucks but at least passing through will be bearable now
Yeah well feel free to enjoy some of our lovely weed and abortions when you do.
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