Oh interesting! Ive done something similar but not didnt put as much effort.

For me, I just made an unending webpage that would create a link to another page...that would say bullshit. Then it would have another link with more bullshit....etc...etc...And it gets slower as time goes on.

Also made a fail2ban banning IPs that reached a certain number of links down. It worked really well, traffic is down 95% and it does not affect any real human users. Its great :)

I have a robots.txt that should tell them not to look at the sites. But if they dont want to read it, I dont want to be nice.

This... is fucking amazing

ANY SITE THIS SOFTWARE IS APPLIED TO WILL LIKELY DISAPPEAR FROM ALL SEARCH RESULTS.

Success?

How wonderfully devious

I… I don’t know how you’d even stream that? A log of pages loaded?

Thanks!

Mostly there's three steps involved:

1. Setup Nepenthes to receive the traffic
2. Perform bot detection on inbound requests (I use a regex list and one is provided below)
3. Configure traffic rules in your load balancer / reverse proxy to send the detected bot traffic to Nepenthes instead of the actual backend for the service(s) you run.

Here's a rough guide I commented a while back: https://dubvee.org/comment/5198738

Here's the post link at lemmy.world which should have that comment visible: https://lemmy.world/post/40374746

You'll have to resolve my comment link on your instance since my instance is set to private now, but in case that doesn't work, here's the text of it:

So, I set this up recently and agree with all of your points about the actual integration being glossed over.

I already had bot detection setup in my Nginx config, so adding Nepenthes was just changing the behavior of that. Previously, I had just returned either 404 or 444 to those requests but now it redirects them to Nepenthes.

Rather than trying to do rewrites and pretend the Nepenthes content is under my app's URL namespace, I just do a redirect which the bot crawlers tend to follow just fine.

There's several parts to this to keep my config sane. Each of those are in include files.

• An include file that looks at the user agent, compares it to a list of bot UA regexes, and sets a variable to either 0 or 1. By itself, that include file doesn't do anything more than set that variable. This allows me to have it as a global config without having it apply to every virtual host.

• An include file that performs the action if a variable is set to true. This has to be included in the server portion of each virtual host where I want the bot traffic to go to Nepenthes. If this isn't included in a virtual host's server block, then bot traffic is allowed.

• A virtual host where the Nepenthes content is presented. I run a subdomain (content.mydomain.xyz). You could also do this as a path off of your protected domain, but this works for me and keeps my already complex config from getting any worse. Plus, it was easier to integrate into my existing bot config. Had I not already had that, I would have run it off of a path (and may go back and do that when I have time to mess with it again).

The map-bot-user-agents.conf is included in the http section of Nginx and applies to all virtual hosts. You can either include this in the main nginx.conf or at the top (above the server section) in your individual virtual host config file(s).

The deny-disallowed.conf is included individually in each virtual hosts's server section. Even though the bot detection is global, if the virtual host's server section does not include the action file, then nothing is done.

Files

# Map bot user agents
## Sets the $ua_disallowed variable to 0 or 1 depending on the user agent. Non-bot UAs are 0, bots are 1

map $http_user_agent $ua_disallowed {
    default 		0;
    "~PerplexityBot"	1;
    "~PetalBot"		1;
    "~applebot"		1;
    "~compatible; zot"	1;
    "~Meta"		1;
    "~SurdotlyBot"	1;
    "~zgrab"		1;
    "~OAI-SearchBot"	1;
    "~Protopage"	1;
    "~Google-Test"	1;
    "~BacklinksExtendedBot" 1;
    "~microsoft-for-startups" 1;
    "~CCBot"		1;
    "~ClaudeBot"	1;
    "~VelenPublicWebCrawler"	1;
    "~WellKnownBot"	1;
    #"~python-requests"	1;
    "~bitdiscovery"	1;
    "~bingbot"		1;
    "~SemrushBot" 	1;
    "~Bytespider" 	1;
    "~AhrefsBot" 	1;
    "~AwarioBot"	1;
#    "~Poduptime" 	1;
    "~GPTBot" 		1;
    "~DotBot"	 	1;
    "~ImagesiftBot"	1;
    "~Amazonbot"	1;
    "~GuzzleHttp" 	1;
    "~DataForSeoBot" 	1;
    "~StractBot"	1;
    "~Googlebot"	1;
    "~Barkrowler"	1;
    "~SeznamBot"	1;
    "~FriendlyCrawler"	1;
    "~facebookexternalhit" 1;
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}

# Deny disallowed user agents
if ($ua_disallowed) { 
    # This redirects them to the Nepenthes domain. So far, pretty much all the bot crawlers have been happy to accept the redirect and crawl the tarpit continuously 
	return 301 https://content.mydomain.xyz/;
}

Bingo, modern datasets are a list of URL's with metadata rather than the files themselves. Every new team/individual wanting to work with the dataset becomes another DDoS participant.

The sad thing is that they could cache the whole internet if there was a checksum protocol.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I actually hate the idea that there are several companies out there with graph databases of the entire internet.

If you build a house, but hire a guard for the front gate, do you even own the house?!

Yes if it's tunneled to your self-hosting setup. With CGNAT you have to use similar services if you want to self-host.

Like a lock on a door, it stops the vast majority but can't do shit about the actual professional bad guys

Yes, CloudFlare blocks agents completely if they ignore it's restrictions. The key is scale - CloudFlare has a birds eye view of traffic patterns across millions of sites and can do statistical analysis to determine who is a bot.

I hate the necessity but it works