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marriges rule (thelemmy.club)

transcription: just saw a straight woman CONFIDENTLY say lesbian marriage isnt a real marriage its just "two best friends who get each other off" and like bestie, idk what has gone wrong in your life but thats exactly what marriage is supposed to be, regardless of the genders involved. as opposed to real marriage, where you have two people who dislike each other and dont get each other off.

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[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

This is some real talk!

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

As for the bottom comment of the screenshot, marriage has typically seen as economic for much of human history. So yes, real marriage is when two people dislike each other and don't get each other off.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Historically marriage used to be a legal relationship for the purpose of discussing who takes care of the children. Children are really expensive and if it isn't cleared uo who's responsible for them, you end up with a situation where nobody seems responsible for them and the children suffer. To prevent that situation, marriage was introduced.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 1 points 56 minutes ago

Marriage was the sale of goods in trade for goods or a further trading relationship.

The goods were a woman and a dowry, the trade was two families having a long term business relationship or if it was royalty then a short or long term peace treaty between countries or fiefdoms.

Likely the discussion of children in case of rich families and royalty back in the day, was how many wet nurses and maids were needed to take care of the children so they could be not seen and not heard until they were adults.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I doubt this is true. They probably had more to do with binding households together than any consideration of the well being of anyone involved. Our modern concept of raising children past the age of 6 isn't even that old.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 hours ago

As the joke goes:

Baby, this relationship is so good I want to get the government involved!!!

However I really feel that marriage is a vestige of the patriarchy and shouldn’t exist.

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago

Appreciate the sentiment and agree with most other comments here.

Even though most people view it emotionally or under whatever religious pseudo authority, marriage is explicitly a contractual relationship similar to a business partnership. That contract creates specific financial and other obligations, liabilities, and privileges that you agree will be overseen by an authority that is in most cases a family court with incredible latitude to make determinations that heavily effect your life and that of your marriage/business partner. So, maybe take it at least as seriously as you would starting a new business with someone.

tbf, I'd rather be good friends with a business partner too. Even if we ended up falling out, at least I'd understand them well and be better able to understand their decisions.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 26 points 7 hours ago

“My marriage is better than yours” <= usually people who feel like shit and see no way out.

Proooooojectiooooooon

[-] aeiou@piefed.social 15 points 7 hours ago

as opposed to real marriage where yo have two people who don't get along and don't get each other off

I've seen so many of these - couples who viciously hate each other yet 'don't believe in divorce'

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

I have a feeling this person might not be as confident about their sexuality as they are about married life...

[-] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 90 points 11 hours ago

Marriage is just formalising the intent to continue fucking your best friend. Sexuality is completely irrelevant.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 51 points 8 hours ago

Fucking your best friend for tax benefits.

[-] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 48 minutes ago

And health benefits when you hit a certain age

Realistically the fucking is optional so long as the both of you have agreed to the arrangements.

Like I'm ace and my partner and I have been married for 8 years. It's just been an 8 year long sleepover with my best friend with added tax benefits.

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 57 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'll never understand the assertion that it's normal for married people to not get along with their spouse or their spouse isn't their best friend. What exactly do people think the point of marriage is beyond religious reasons?

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's easy and common for the sparks to die down after 15, 20 years and you're left basically living with someone who feels like an acquaintance. It's a trope for a reason.

BTW there's nothing wrong with that. Most people are mature enough by then to make it work.

[-] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Shit, I've been with my wife for 16 years (married for 1), sparks are still strong AF. Does the timer start when you get together or when you get married?

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Tell that to every person who has been married for 40+ years and is still madly in love with their spouse. It's very common.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

I'm sure it is.

[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 8 hours ago

I've been with my wife for sixteen years next month. I'm still madly in love with her and I genuinely like being around her. I kinda hope she feels the same way about me.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I wouldn't say it's normal, I think that's just cope from people who're scared of being alone or can't afford to live separate.

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 2 points 4 hours ago

I think societal pressure also contributes. Not as common today but it's definitely still a thing.

[-] 93maddie94@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

So I grew up homeschooled with a conservative Christian mother. A lot of people I knew got married from the same small group of families, right after high school, and started having kids right after. (I know 2 sisters from one family that married 2 brothers from another). It’s what everyone did. Nobody gave themselves any time to meet new people, just married someone their age and the opposite sex they’d grown up with. Also, nobody had sex or lived with one another prior to getting married so you don’t really know who you’re marrying. But when you’re taught from an early age that people of the “world” are misguided and will never understand you, that’s what you get. I didn’t fall into this, but my brother did.

[-] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 29 points 10 hours ago

Be old/conservative, want to have sex at 18 because hormones, you can't unless you're married, get hitched for life to the first attractive person who shows up, wake up in 10 years and realize you married a stranger and you don't really get along.

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

accidentally play the long game instead

> build community group for shared hobby
> get a few dozen ppl
> group gradually over years expands to be a lot more
> together with friends make a sidegroup with those y'all like talking with, so y'all dont spam the rest of the community under
> continue chatting about hobbies, gay stuff etc
> eventually you and another realise you like each other
> talk with them more
> oops now you have a date
> meet up irl

thats how i got into a queer ass relationship at least, basically the online version of creating/joining a hobby club and realising you like each other.

and tbf, if you think about it, a real good relationship should be that anyways - it's like having best friends but you do much more than that, like cuddling and mrrrping together :3*

shared interests and complementing personalities help amazingly more, tbh. looks are great, but unless if you're going for a short term thingy, i feel like personality is something you should prioritise on. but to each their own.

* like yeah there's fwb but a romantic relationship is a little different. there's this kind of level of trust where you can be truly yourself and tell each other the wackiest shit.

[-] chisel@piefed.social 24 points 10 hours ago

Tbf, I do feel spouses have a duty to hold eachother to a higher standard than friends do. For mutual improvement, growth, etc... And shared ownership/finances is huge. And often raising kids. Marriage is a lot more than just friendship, though that is a massively important part.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Ever heard of shotgun marriages?

[-] Azrael@reddthat.com 6 points 8 hours ago

I am familiar with the term. However they are usually for religious reasons. The notion that one must marry due to pregnancy is arbitrary.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't think it's all that complicated to consider platonic and romantic relationships different

[-] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 10 hours ago

Marriage is really about tax filing and its propaganda from the sex and chocolate industries to say otherwise.

I love my wife very much that's why I want to do intimate things together like fill out form 1040 while cuddling.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 hours ago

I got married and it doesn't come with any tax benefits 😭

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 hours ago

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[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 hours ago

what a terrible day to have eyes

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago

I both hate it and love it. Lmao

[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 20 points 8 hours ago

Thank you, now I know what having a stroke must feel like.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 9 points 7 hours ago

Oh yeah, conservative christians like to stroke.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

This is what conservatives see when a guy has long hair.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 45 points 11 hours ago

You don't gotta tell on yourself like that, ma'am.

[-] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 10 hours ago

Well there's also romantic attraction. I know some aros who would love to fuck their best friend without any romance, but alloromantics tend to dislike that because they go and fall in love. Romantic love.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Also aces who go falling in love without wanting sex.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago

This is me I think. My most long lasting relationship was basically me and my best friend hanging out, living together, and having sex. I loved her a lot but looking back I don't think it was ever quite in the way she wanted me to. We talked about marriage but it never really sat right with me. It's been hard to accept that I might be aro. When I think about it too much I just feel sad because I'm afraid the kind of relationship I really want is impossible. Best friends who bang. I don't want the exclusivity, expectations, or implicit sense of ownership of a romantic relationship. I value my autonomy way too much for that to feel anything but suffocating. I want to just choose to be with my besties every day and oops 30 years have gone by and we're still together vibing and fucking.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Honestly, kinda the most wholesome way of describing the perfect aromantic relationship. I'm ace and deeply romantic, so it can feel hard to relate to what you describe. But I can respect it.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Marriage isn't committing to have sex with the other. Rape in marriage has been illegal for around 30 years. To me a marriage means committing to a partnership. This reductionist view feels harmful.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Committing doesn't overrule consent, nor does it inhibit your choice to change your mind. I agree marriage doesn't give either partner a "right" to sex but neither does it give a "right" to a partnership.

I'm being a pedant, i assume you meant to use "committing" in two different senses there: agreeing while maintaining agency vs. agreeing and foregoing agency. The earlier comments could be interpreted using either sense to get a different meaning, and i think the former was intended.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago

You are right. The former was intended.

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

For me marriage is just the formalisation of a relationship.

Same with a civil union.

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