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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago

Am I living in an alternate timeline? They've been making GPUs for quite some time- and B580 was actually pretty good, incredibly good for the price.

[-] ApplyingAutomation@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago
[-] Darkness343@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh no, Nvidia's pet is rebelling. Maybe they should be remindes of their current status

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 18 hours ago

Like if ARC has never existed before?

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago
[-] treesquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

English clearly isn't their first language, but the intent is pretty obviously "As if they aren't already making ARC GPUs?"

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago

Tom Peterson, who's been working at Intel for half a decade: Am I a joke to you

[-] wioum@lemmy.world 232 points 1 day ago

I had to check the date on the article. They've been making GPUs for 3 years now, but I guess this announcement--although weird--is a sign that Arc is here to stay, which is good news.

[-] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago

This article was based off what the CEO said at the Second Annual AI Summit, following the news of their new head of GPU hire who says he "will lead GPU engineering with a focus on AI at Intel". The AI pivot is the actual news.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

Oh so they will actually not focus on GPUs as end consumer products for you and me. They’re just like Nvidia and AMD. This news really just shows how cooked gaming is.

[-] atthecoast@feddit.nl 3 points 12 hours ago

I don’t know, perhaps gaming will get rejected AI chips with a few cores broken. The chip design requirements are slightly different but not completely foreign

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

Just what every consumer needs. More AI focused chips.

Intel just trying to cash in on the AI hype to buy the sinking ship, as far as investors are concerned.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Don't worry, it's just a relabeling. The stuff is still the same.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

It's not even a pivot. They've been focusing on AI already. I'm sure they want it to seem like a pivot (and build up hype); the times before apparently just having the hardware and software wasn't enough. nobody cared when the gaudi cards came out, nobody uses sycl or onednn, etc

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

It feels like TechCrunch is allowing a drunk Ai to write all its articles now.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Weird, they're a bit late boarding this train as it already starts to derail...MS just stumbled hard as their AI shit isn't paying off and it drives consumers away.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 1 points 16 hours ago

Man watching the stock the past few days is just chefs kiss

The actual chips are farmed out to TSMC, I don't believe they've made any in house so I'm guessing maybe they've decided that they're going to do that sometimes now? But then, even some of their CPUs are made by TSMC so I could be on a very wrong path.

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

TSMC is how they stay competitive; that’s what everyone else uses

Intel is still catching up with 18A

The 18A production node itself is designed to prove that Intel can not only create a compelling CPU architecture but also manufacture it internally on a technology node competitive with TSMC's best offerings.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intels-18a-production-starts-before-tsmcs-competing-n2-tech-heres-how-the-two-process-nodes-compare

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[-] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 1 day ago

thanks for your effort

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Oh great, some wildly overpriced and underperforming GPUs.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 hours ago

Atleast it's a 3rd contender, but afaik the Arc series had a decent enough pricing, although AMD's prices seemed better, but not sure

[-] notthebees@reddthat.com 7 points 9 hours ago

they've been quite good on the pricing front?

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"oh great, competition in a market with no competition. Horrible."

Intel has already been making discrete GPUs for two generations and they are very cheap and aren't the most performant but fantastic for the price.

I'd rather a non-US player enter the market like moorethreads, but because of us capitalist assholes, handicapping China competition for a long time they aren't going to be able to make cards that are up to our performance standards till the 2030s probably

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

They won’t be for you.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 49 points 1 day ago

Well that article was a waste of space. Intel has already stepped into the GPU market with their ARC cards, so at the very least the article should contain a clarification on what the CEO meant.

And I see people shitting on the arc cards. The cards are not bad. Last time I checked the B580 had performance comparable to the 4060 for half the cost. The hardware is good, it's simply meant for budget builds. And of course the drivers have been an issue, but drivers can be improved and last time I checked Intel is actually getting better with their drivers. It's not perfect but we can't expect perfect. Even the gold standard of drivers, Nvidia, has been slipping in the last year.

All is to say, I don't understand the hate. Do we not want competition in the GPU space? Are we supposed to have Nvidia and AMD forever until AMD gives up because it becomes too expensive to compete with Nvidia? I'd like it to be someone else than Intel but as long as the price comes down I don't care who brings it down.

And to be clear, if Intels new strategy is keeping the prices as they are I'm all for "fuck Intel".

[-] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The USA owns 10% of the company, which might turn off some.

This is a big part of it, imo. They kissed the ring.

The other part of it is that, per the article, this is an “AI” pivot. This is not them making more consumer-oriented GPUs. Which is frustrating, because they absolutely could be a viable competitor in low-mid tier if they wanted to. But “AI” is (for now) much more lucrative. We’ll see how long that lasts.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I don't know if "GPUs" is the right term, but the only area where we're seeing large gains in computational capacity now is in parallel compute, so I'd imagine that if Intel intends to be doing high performance computation stuff moving forward, they probably want to be doing parallel compute too.

[-] badabim@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

The term you're looking for is GPGPU (General Purpose computing on GPU)

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

What the fuck? What kind of idiotic article is that? Did Techcrunch go down the drain too?

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[-] angrywaffle@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Doesn't Nvidia have $5bi stakes of intel? I wonder how that influences their decisions.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Aren't TPUs like dramatically better for any AI workload?

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Intel's Gaudi 3 datacenter GPU from late 2024 advertises about 1800 tops in fp8, at 3.1 tops/w. Google's mid 2025 TPU v7 advertises 4600 tops fp8, at 4.7 tops/w. Which is a difference, but not that dramatic of one. The reason it is so small is that GPUs are basically TPUs already; almost as much die space as is allocated to actual shader units is allocated to matrix accelerators. I have heard anecdotally.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

At scale the power efficiency is probably really important though

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes, it works out to a ton of power and money, but on the other hand, 2x the computation could be like a few percent better in results. so it's often a thing of orders of magnitude, because that's what is needed for a sufficiently noticeable difference in use.

basing things on theoretical tops is also not particularly equivalent to performance in actual use, it just gives a very general idea of a perfect workload.

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Been looking at their Arc B50/B60 but still too expensive in Canada

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Good luck fucking things up like you always do

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Wut?

Alchemist and Battlemage cards were fine.

Edit: oh no. It's a pivot to AI compute 🤦‍♂️

[-] Paragone@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

From what I've read about the "quality" of their drivers, .. NVidia isn't under any threat, whatsoever.

Years before bugs get fixed, etc..

( Linux, not MS-Windows, but it's Linux where the big compute gets done, so that's relevant )

https://www.phoronix.com/review/llama-cpp-vulkan-eoy2025/5

for some relevant graphs: Intel isn't a real competitor, & while they may work to change that .. that lag is SERIOUSLY bad, behind NVidia.

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