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Tolerance (thelemmy.club)
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[-] 18107@aussie.zone 32 points 4 days ago
[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago

No. Tolerance is a social contract that these shitheads rejected, and therefore deserve none.

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So by "no" you mean "yes"?

...a truly tolerant society must retain the right to deny tolerance to those who promote intolerance. [...] if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

By "No" I mean that it's not a paradox

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Fair, but we're into semantics at this point; there's no benefit to anyone in debating that. What you're describing is still an approach to what's known as the Paradox of Tolerance.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 days ago

When you're talking about philosophical concepts, semantics matter. Calling the concept a paradox carries the implication that it is irresolvable, and most people aren't going to engage with the topic beyond the surface-level implications. See the countless slop content on youtube that talks about the "paradox of tolerance" in this very shallow way.

[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Best GIF I've seen in this century.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Tolerance is a social contract, not a moral precept. If you break the contract you are no longer protected by it.

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

tolerance is a contract not a charity

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

Recommended read of you like philosophy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[-] Dionysus@leminal.space 7 points 4 days ago

The only way to ensure tolerance is not to tolerate intolerance. How is that so hard to understand?

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 6 points 4 days ago

Further, tolerance is a social contract. The intolerant choose to violate it, so they don't get to claim its protections.

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Many "Nazis" can change their minds from just being exposed to a diverse group of people, especially in childhood. We should definitely try that first, before antagonising them and pushing them even more into their harmful viewpoints, and escalating the cycle of violence.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Okay well you go and hang out with them to convert them, I'll personally continue to remove them on sight. I think you'll discover many Nazis and their kin aren't simply misguided sheep.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Maybe also don’t be so rash with labeling everyone further right from you a Nazi or fascist.

This issue goes all the way back to German communists branding the social democrats as social fascists in Weimar Germany.

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago
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