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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I feel like this may be a job for guillotine

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this is what is called a sworn affidavit.

that is what it comes from

it is a type of testimonial evidence, like a deposition or statements in court.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Just going by the date, 2016, it looks like it might be from one of the MANY defamation lawsuits that flew between various involved people. Buckle up because it's a bumpy ride.

In 2008, the attorney representing Virginia Roberts Giuffre and other Epstein victims, Brad Edwards, sued over Jeffrey Epstein's sweetheart deal to avoid prison. The law involved is called the Crime Victims Rights Act, or CVRA, and that's what you'll see this original lawsuit called, or by its actual name, Jane Doe v. USA 2008. This lawsuit actually started as soon as the victims realized they'd been formally shafted by the state of Florida, and involved Edwards and the other attorneys involved obtaining many supporting witness depositions, some of which were filed at the time, some of which were held back. I don't know why some were not filed until later, but many were used in more than one lawsuit over the years.

Keep in mind that when I say "filed" I am using the US legal definition of the word, and by that I mean a specific document is formally attached to an existing lawsuit and becomes public record. You can have a thousand depositions, but until/unless they are filed, like a witness deposition as an exhibit, it's not public record and no one knows about it except the attorneys who obtained it.

But back to yours. My best guess is that the one you're looking at, the one from 2016, is probably from the blizzard of lawsuits that started flying when a deposition from the 2008 CVRA case naming Alan Dershowitz as one of Giuffre's abusers was filed in 2014. Giuffre's witness depositions -- which are really what blew this whole thing open -- were naming names, and his is among them. Giuffre also went after the nonce formerly known as Prince Andrew, then Ghislane Maxwell called her a liar so she sued Ghislane Maxwell for defamation, and of course Alan Dershowitz sued for defamation because she named him directly.

But that's not all. When Dershowitz started suing, he didn't just go after Giuffre, he went after her attorneys as well. And then the attorneys of the attorneys were suing.

So what you're looking at is a massive clusterfuck of lawsuits created by a master of legal clusterfuckery, Alan Dershowitz, and the various defenses and responses to that. It's literally a circle of claymore mines all shooting lawsuits. Bleak House, but pedos instead of probate: Alan Dershowitz v. the entire group of known Epstein victims AND their attorneys.

And every single one of these suits contain filed supporting witness depositions such as the one you're reading: not just depositions to elicit testimony and find truth, but depositions as weaponry and harassment. Dershowitz in particular went after every single witness who had ever testified in any way in support of Virginia Giuffre, not to find fact, but to be able to legally force them to sit in a room and be battered with nasty questioning for hours on end so they'd be very discouraged from ever standing as a witness ever again.

And this all went on for YEARS. The CVRA case alone didn't get resolved until I think 2021, and that started in 2008.

But funny enough, the particular defamation lawsuit between Dershowitz and Giuffre and/or her attorneys that is the root of most of what you are seeing ended with a draw, because they each brought a weapon to the table the other couldn't counter: Dershowitz brought unlimited legal actions until the end of time, and Giuffre brought witness statements like the one you're reading, with as many more to come as she wanted to round up. In the end, they both stood down. The others kept going, and some still are.

That's the background, but the rest is up to you. You can use the case number on the DoJ website to identify which particular case this is from and try to sort it out from there.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I thought you were being overly descriptive at first, but this is good info for anyone to know. Especially about the dumbass who 'leads' the US but couldn't lead a horse to water without getting bored then the fact he is in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal along with largest military force on earth. Like who gives a narcissist that power?

Yeah we humans suck to let this happen in any proper society.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, it really is an indictment of society as a whole. FWIW I also tend to believe Sascha Riley, not just directly based on what he has said, but also because of everything I'd already seen in the Epstein files and associated lawsuits.

For the sake of someone I know I read a number of these depositions until I just couldn't read them anymore, and the filth they represent . . . it's all happening right here, just under the surface, even now, with the individuals most involved not only not punished, but elevated beyond imagination.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

You do realize that the “Doe” in the name is to protect the identity of the victim or witness right?

[-] stenAanden@feddit.dk 16 points 1 week ago

I mean, where does the document come from?

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Most recently, the US Department of Justice. Prior to that, it came from sworn witness testimony.

[-] stenAanden@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago
[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago

Are you stupid or something?

The link is the DOJ website where you can look up the file based on the serial number in the lower right corner. Short of that, no, sealed witness testimony isn’t something you can just fucking google. Are you trolling?

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

This is an odd comment given that all your comments here are rude and seemed to have missed the point.

That the witness is psuedonymized is obvious - it says that - but also doesn't really impact people's ability to find cases where trump is the defendant, or cases of a missing 12 y/o with connections to trump.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The source would be anonymous, per the FBI

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

The good comments are already taken, so I'm just gonna ask what is the point of a signature for a pseudonym? (Signatures in an of themselves are a bit shit as security of any sort.)

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Why? Do you want to kill this witness and their family?

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