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[-] aze@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

I’m an American and work as a cloud infra engineer. Imagine a world where Amazon and Palantir sleep together. Don’t consider, just don’t do it. Keep your sovereignty.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 days ago

No government organization should ever be using foreign hosting, period, but using usa's is an especially awful idea

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

Easier said than done for a country that size, but I always think it would be amazing if Finland could band together with a couple dozen or so other European countries to form some kind of cooperative Union that would allow the creation of this kind of project. I also imagine that if such a thing did exist and you were a part of it you'd have to be a complete fucking dickbasket to leave it but that's neither here nor there.

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Dickbaskets have an annoying habit of getting into positions of power.

[-] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hosting with close allies shouldn't be a problem.

Within the EU, I still don't care in which country the data is hosted

It's still a problem. Never forget that today's friend can be tomorrow's enemy.

[-] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

And perhaps one of our states leaves the country.

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[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 154 points 4 days ago

Only considering?! Nevertheless good enough.

[-] vpol@feddit.uk 63 points 4 days ago

In order to halt they have to consider it first. There is some process required.

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Then migration will take years if they already are established in US cloud services

[-] vpol@feddit.uk 23 points 4 days ago

From what I understand it was only a plan. So shouldn’t take long to change it. But due process is still required.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Re-read the title. considering halting plans to. They aren't using them yet.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

The headline suggests they haven't started using them yet.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That was my first reaction, but anyone who's been anywhere near the civil service knows it will take 16 meetings just to decide to have a meeting about it. The fact they've started considering it within a year means this must be high priority.

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[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago

"considering" ... Guys. do any of you watch the news?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We've formed a committee to look into it

[-] sommerset 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think realistically right now everyone is putting brakes on till November elections. If Trump doesn't go full hitler till election date and declares an empire, he's likely done in Nov.

What's sad is - people erroneously think whether trump is in office or Biden - that somehow affects the trustworthiness of the private owned American clouds.

[-] track_stick_baboon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Oh no, no... Trust in America is gone forever, no matter who wins. Because American people have demonstrated (twice) that they can choose someone like Trump as a president. The world won't be waiting anxiously for the next Trump. We'll move on.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What is unique to American people? I easily foresee the next Trump from any country.

Especially if they have the same bad voting system of "pick the lesser evil". Do that enough times and you can get worse than Trump.

[-] track_stick_baboon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

What's is unique is the amount of trust granted. That won't happen again.

[-] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I wouldn't say forever. But it will take a long time to rebuild.

[-] track_stick_baboon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It'll take decades, if ever. Trust is hard to gain but easy to lose.

[-] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 3 days ago

I’m sure the Democrats will select a top-tier candidate for us like Gavin Newsom in 2028. One of the most pressing issues in this country right now is there is a lot of hate against minority groups like billionaires and zionists, and a candidate like Newsom would work tirelessly to make sure these groups don’t have to live in fear.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The oligarchs are all fascist Zionists with or without Trump. American tech can’t be trusted and the only real solution is public tech alternatives.

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[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 50 points 4 days ago

the fact that ministry of justice of any state, regardless of specific geopolitical problems going on at any given time, would just upload its data to any "cloud" no matter what state it is operated from, is mind blowing to me.

you would really expect some standards for such sensitive data.

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[-] Zarajevo@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago

Halt it, US dependencies can and will be using against you in the future

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 7 points 3 days ago

All your data are belong to us.

[-] jali67@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

American oligarchs will bribe the government to continue doing their bidding, even against nations that were once our allies.

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[-] ChessThoughts@piefed.ca 29 points 4 days ago

Good. Get American technology out. Follow Germany’s lead.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 days ago

That you even started to consider it in 2026 is bizarre, really

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

It's a government thing. I'm not sure when they've started to consider alternatives, but that renewal process (as old systems are on EOL) has most likely been on the table for years.

[-] Australis13@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Bit late to the party, but good to see another country waking up to the realisation that the US cannot be trusted. Now if only my own country would realise that...

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

Wow, if only there was some software originating in Finland they could use...

[-] Tja@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

That's not an alternative. In fact almost everything cloud already is Linux.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

It's almost like you don't actually understand exactly what options they're looking at. And you just feel like throwing Linux out for everything. Considering that a lot of AWS does actually run on Linux.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

I would think that one of these European datacenters could manage to raise a control plane providing cheap load balancers and stand up some file/data clusters. It can't be THAT hard to compete with amazon

[-] linule@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s so weird that a continent with the population, education and wealth of Europe struggles with.. software? These are all solved problems and software development becomes easier by the day. Come on.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago

We only struggle with what we produce not being bought up by American giants.

Writing the software isn't a problem. Having the company survive is.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Ericsson was doing great until it got swallowed up by globalization.

The one-two punch of the US and China shuttered a lot of viable global infotech companies.

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