Beware of the American Party of Labor! (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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The entire party is a glorified book club, pretending to do organizing. They have ultraleftist tendencies and are very dismissive of the AES projects in the global south due to their dogmatic views. They are part of the 'Western Marxist' sector and are highly incaple of building a revolutionary movement.

Do not let their members infiltrate your orgs and spread malicious messages like, "Cuba, China, and USSR are/were not proletarian democracies but state capitalists." One easy way to identify them is they are huge fans of the Youtuber, Socialism4All.

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[-] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Socialism4All (lots like this for example BadMouse and 1Dime) = doing a good impression of naval gazing nonsense, whose whole purpose appears to be here is to repurpose electoralism towards the Green Party while denigrating successful global south movements and up-playing global south movements that are not successful so they can feel like a True Leftist for picking losing sides and never having to dirty their hands in revolutionary pragmatism, and never having to truly reflect and learn marxism-leninism as a science rather than some sort of weird fandom using 19th- 20th century marxist literature as a type of biblical prophecy.

It's like a type of masochism dressed up in pseudo-marxist aesthetics.

[+] procapra@lemmy.ml -8 points 1 week ago

APL is Anti-Revisionist Marxist Leninist (or Hoxhaist if you prefer) and is part of the CIPOML. The APL upholds the USSR pre-khruschev.

Yes, APL does not to my knowledge uphold any current socialist projects, but it does not uphold "Western Marxist" traditions.

The APL is currently very vocal against US actions taken against Venezuela (check redphoenixnews) and holds a similar line to it's sister party in Venezuela PCMLV, which has advocated "popular and revolutionary unity" against US aggression.

Unless you have actual evidence of wrecker behavior or infiltration, I feel like this post exists just to bash a party that holds a different line than you believe to be true.

[-] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

APL does not to my knowledge uphold any current socialist projects, but it does not uphold “Western Marxist” traditions.

That is a Western Marxist tradition in itself.

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Their members go around calling all AES countries "not proletarian state".

[-] prof_tincoa@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

All hoxhaist parties are like that. I'm often disappointed with Unidade Popular pelo Socialismo here in Brazil, for the same reason. That said, they are not entirely useless either. They do a lot of organizing, including violent resistance at times. And they heavily promote reading classic marxist theory. I think it's important for us to criticize the mistakes of their political line, but the name calling, shallow criticism I often see is not ✨ dialectical ✨ (and tbh they also do that a lot)

I don't know a single thing about the American Party of Labor, though, except for procapra@lemmy.ml saying they are hoxhaists.

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