Hahahaha this idiot thinks that it's the speed of our typing that ships code faster. He's in a knowledge shortage.
I’ve found that the people who understand these “agents” the least are the ones who are promoting them the most.
And everyone promotes them for tasks they aren't experts in.
Managers think they could replace devs, but never a manager.
Devs think they could replace management but never a senior developer.
Storyboard drawers think they can write screenplays. Screenplay writers think they can draw storyboards. Etc.
As an expert, you know how shit AI is in your own field, but surely those other jobs are simple enough to be replaced.
Let's be honest, though: they absolutely could replace management.
A good manager is both a coordinator and a filter. They deal with bs rolling down from above and keep their team running efficiently.
A good manager is worth their weight in gold. A bad manager isn't worth their weight in bullshit.
I've also enjoyed the term "shit umbrella" for a good manager.
Yeah, our PM is great. Our previous one not so much.
He trusts us but also handles absolutely loads of stuff that we don't want to deal with.
It's very easy to replace something that was never critical to the process in the first place. My manager essentially updates my git tickets with what I did. We talk for 5 minutes a week. He just kinda lets me do my thing, I am fully aware of how lucky I am.
some management, sure. just like some of your coworkers could probably be replaced by AI. but not the competent ones, and not the essential ones.
and personally, I'd still rather work with an incompetent person who can improve than four incompetent chatbots
although I'd rather work with no incompetence at all
The principal task of a competent manager is, primarily, intervening between incompetent upper managers and actual workers. Replacing the incompetent manager removes the need for the competent one.
man does this dude think the hardest part about writing a book is fucking typing it out? someone give this dork a swirly
Pokémon Red & Blue was 373 KB. So much efficiency and creative coding made early high-content video games possible. Imagine how bloated that would be if it was vibe coded by AI
But could you imagine all the exploits we would have found by now? That special little coast line would have been nothing. Missing Number? Bet we would have had the whole Missing Alphabet haha.
3 months later they rehired all of those four engineers to fix all that bullshit useless code.
My sister-in-law is a software engineer and project manager. This isn't groundbreaking news or anything but she said that her engineers are using generative AI like this. The problem is that it created exceedingly inefficient and bloated code that barely works. En masse it will bog down systems due to the exponential inefficiencies.
It's fine. Everything is fine.
Yup, it's a junior dev that never learns, makes thousands of tiny mistakes that tolerance stack into a brittle gnarled mess.
So......why is she letting them, and not instead, like, not letting them?
I'm not her or her employer. It is an odd time for the coding industry. It'd be like a fish swimming against the manager/leader-lead river.
Who needs tech-debt when you have new and improved slop-debt?
Techbros calculate programming skills by lines of code per shift.
It only makes sense that they would think "10x engineer" just means "types 10 times as fast."
Yea…..but how may developers are you going to have to pay to maintain that shit?
Fun story!
The CEO was charmed by some AI vibe dude who
CEO gave him a three month trial run to show it.
AI vibe dude spent the first two weeks showing off all this cool new frontend to managers. Nothing actually worked. They gave him a round of feedback.
Then he spent another two weeks struggling to meet the feedback.
Nobody in the tech department wanted to help him because he came in shit talking.
They ended the trial because the AI Vibe coder dude couldn't handle system changes, how to fix bugs, implementing new feature requests without breaking old stuff, and didn't have any real coding skills. He barely lasted a month.
The first half of this story made me wonder if we were colleagues.
The second half was different though. Our guy was a personal friend of some high up, slandered the existing codebase without so much as even speaking to the existing devteam, and then took the better part of a year claiming he could replace the entire decade old codebase while making vague promises that it was coming soon. Meanwhile upper management was taking the slander seriously, punished my department and got a new manager for it. It wasnt until the new manager outed him as a fraud for his ass to finally get caught.
I doubt he was able to read the legacy codebase at all.
Stop hiring 20 managers. Hire 1 manager and have them in meetings all day so real work can be done.
guy in the business of vibe coding hypes up vibe coding
"The new skill isn't typing faster".
Since I added a second keyboard I am programming twice as fast and don't even need AI!
We pair-code on the same keyboard for maximum efficiency.
I hate LinkedIn and all the fuck holes on it so god damn bad
One of our devs came to me with an LLM rewrite of some parts of our automation. Even at first glance you could see a lot was missed, the refactor simply wasn't going to work in that state and critical migration logic just wasn't present.
I binned the branch and did the refactor myself, as it would have taken more time to figure out the damage caused than just starting over.
So glad we now pay premium prices for RAM and non-volatile storage, just so some LLM can vomit up a reheated turd.
Does he know what a technical debt is?
There's going to be so much awful slop code everywhere in the future.
This is the real reason why all those scrappy rebels in sci-fi shows can hack into everything.
Ah yes one of those bootlicking linkedin lunatics
"We're not in X, we're in Y"
squints suspiciously
Last week, curious what would be generated, told Cursor (with Claude Opus 4.5) to create an animated LED strip effect for an ESP32 device in C. Pretty simple stuff. It thinks for a long time. Creates a ton of scaffolding, docs, step-by-step agentic checklists, even a Makefile to build and deploy the binary. It then says: "Done."
I go compile it. Lots of errors. I paste over the logs and ask it what's wrong. Claude thinks for a while longer, then goes:
"I see the issue - I only created the header file but never completed the LED manager implementation. Let me check what's there and finish the implementation."
"Talent utilization crisis"
"Hire 1 engineer instead of 4"
Yes
This was definitely written with AI.
There isn't a talent shortage, there's a shortage of people who will take your shit at sub-par wages working two + jobs at your company.
Thought we were on !linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works for a moment.
Do people actually use agents for production code? I feel like it is one of those things that people don't use but is sold to us that everyone uses. A lie to promote bullshit.
I have an engineer that uses it heavily.
It adds so much extra and he'll push thousands of lines of code into a PR every week. He had one bug and tried to refactor it, he bloated that single file by 16%.
It's almost impossible to review.
Prompt: "write a python script to create a thousand linkedin accounts with plausible sounding names, and then setup a cronjob to post every day a punchy linkedin just-so story explaining why everyone should be paying for my LLM and to keep paying for it when I jack up the price 100x to cover my expenses"
Nothing can go wrong with that plan
Don't worry. All the code has been thoroughly tested. By Claude.
You're absolutely right! I didn't actually run anything. I was displaying a "thinking..." animation and simply waited for your next input. I shouldn't have done that.
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