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The victim's gun was in a waistband holster and an ICE agent took it before the other one shot him. The blatant lying is wild
Good ol' No-Evidence Noem. "Just take my word for it, Cricket practically asked me to shoot him in the face with that shotgun. He was a Domestic ~~Terrier~~ Terrorist. Anyone who pisses me off is a Domestic Terrorist."
Clearly the dog had a gun with an intent to kill
This is one of the main reasons people don't vote blue. They care a lot about their firearms. If the red start going after them, grab some popcorn because things will go down. Maybe this is whats needed to get them to open their eyes.
“The dems want to take away your firearms!”
“That may or may not be true, but the GOP WILL just kill you and label you a terrorist if they find out you have a firearm.”
That's been true for a long time in police interactions. Possessing a firearm in public alone has been justification for detainment, arrest and use of force including lethal force countless times.
Yes, but now it’s true for white male conservatives who just happen to be in the right place at the wrong time.
Not an equality they’re used to.
Disagree. They're fine with it if the person doing it claims to be red.
Guarantee no die hard 2FA MAGAt changes their mind over any of this.
Trump voters have literally lost their business, their jobs, have had to relocate due to lifestyle collapse, and they still say voting for him is better than the alternative.
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Yeah, I doubt very much this will matter to them. See: all the campaigning and crying they did over Epstein and now how they are good with covering that shit up, or making insane executes. The hypocrisy does not matter to them at all
I disagree. I really think you are underestimating how much Americans, especially American men, especial rural men who hunt and don't like being bossed around by a government that's far away, want to buy whatever weapons they want without extra regulation.
For many people, they vote just based on the NRA's selection. If the Democrats became a more pro-gun party, they would gain a substantial amount of power in the US.
Maybe, or they will just make it political: registered dems can’t own guns or something else insane. I guess we will see, I would have thought oedophilia would be the line, but if they are ok with that and suddenly 2a is the breaking point …. I mean I’m disgusted but if we get there we get there.
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You know a country is deeply fucked when their guns are more important than literally everything else.
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plot twist, all the people in that photo are now ICE agents (except the black guy, he is deported).
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I have always held the moral belief that no citizen should be allowed to legally own a firearm. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore current law.
Why do you believe no citizen should be allowed to legally own a firearm?
I am against firearms in general.
Fair enough. The modern world would probably be an overall better place if firearms didn't exist.
But they do exist. And you don't want the fascist to be the only ones who have them.
Well the fascists AND non-fascists have them in America. Not seeing how its making any difference.
2A was specifically written to help prevent a tyrannical government.
Hasn't worked.
They're not magic talismans, you need to actually use them on tyrants. Fire Extinguishers don't ward off fires by just existing.
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Every day we get closer to the tipping point. Arm yourself with a firearm and the knowledge on how to use it safely.
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It was never claimed that it would work overnight. You can't just plead the 2nd as if it were the 5th and , flash, everything is all democracy again. Organized and individual actions, both, will likely be necessary.
All the Second does for us is ensure that we weren't disarmed at this point. One thing I can guarantee is that nobody is going to be discussing any plans for retaliation on this forum or any like it.
The anti-fascist having a gun doesn't seem to have helped him in any way. Just giving the fascists a talking point for demonizing him after the fact.
They find talking points and demonize anyways.
They'll make up any excuse. This one is bullshit like the rest but this excuse is one that has been the law since 1791. People seem to really care about it and previous SCOTUSs have made very clear that no laws can infringe on that even when it's to prevent harm.
I feel so funny on this because I want to defend a right under attack by the rump admin but also it's a right I want limited in many ways... Just not right now.
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How many kids had to die in school shootings in order to protect these 2A rights? But a holstered weapon is suddenly a threat to 6 men armed to the teeth and wearing body armor.
But a holstered weapon is suddenly a threat
Couldn't have been a threat. It was removed from his possession before he was executed.
videos show federal agents apparently discovering and removing during the altercation that led to his death. Videos do not appear to show Pretti holding the weapon during that confrontation.
He died because he's the kind of person ICE fears most: someone who was willing to defend themselves, and knew how to do so legally.
He wasn't defending himself, he was curled up on the ground covering himself as he was pulled, pushed, and BEATEN in every which way. Once the gun was discovered and pulled the agent in the green sweater literally pulled out his pistol and started shooting.
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What is it that you people don't understand about "The right's right to bear arms shall not be infringed"?
Maybe you should take a course to read good.
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Anyone else remember the wild accusations all these years about how tHe LiBrUlS wAnNa TaKe Ur gUnS!
But wait. Anyone noticing how it's not the "libruls" shitting themselves right now, but the NRA and right-wing 2A groups who want no part of this new narrative?
For anyone paying attention, this was always the right wing plan. Always.
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This is one of those "second amendment people" that the felon in chief liked to talk about.
Push this angle, deconvert some magats.
Remember, Trump is the one who said, "Take the guns first, go through due process second." Way back in 2018.
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You won't deconvert them, they hate "teh libs" enough they'll take brutality before admitting they were wrong.
Psst.
It's because black people are open carrying.
Just like the last time Republicans started talking about gun control when black people started open carrying.
Psst.
The American conservative movement is a racist movement.
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Anyone who is even the slightest bit surprised by this wasn't paying attention.
Don't tread on me people getting treaded on harder
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Oh shit they scurred they about to go after gun rights.
Everyone in the trump admin is acting like the 2A will get you killed by them. They’re not violating the right they’re just murdering in tangent
Treat her like she treats puppies.
We need more community defense classes now more than ever. Seriously!
Mega supporters might be coming to the realization that Trump and his fascist machinery will turn on them as fast as they have on anyone else. They don't have any power and as soon as the easier targets are gone that bullseye will switch to them. Probably will lose their cherished guns and "right to battle tyranny and govt outreach" long before they truly understand what they have willingly handed over to Trump and Co.
Can’t wait until Krusty Gnome is hanging around at the Hauge. You think she will be asking for her right to Habeas Corpus then?
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