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Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android (www.androidauthority.com)
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[–] 45 points 7 months ago (18 children)

As soon as we get a stable reliable (proper) Linux phone, I'm ditching android forever.

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  • [–] 39 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    More and more apps just don't work without attestation. No banking, no government stuff.

    It's looking worse for a real open phone OS every year.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    apps will stop working with so many hardware variations that people will just retvrn to web browsers eventually.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    I need my phone to log into my banks website. (Fortunately my current bank doesn't cause problems with custom FW but others do)

    It's basically not possible for me to do my taxes without a phone app that requires SafetyNet. (I don't need to do my taxes, my employer files taxes, but I'm probably missing out on some tax returns)

    The public transport ticket app randomly stopped working on LineageOS after an app update. (I don't need to buy tickets on the phone but it's a lot more convenient)

    This stuff is already really difficult for me to navigate but ideally FOSS mobile OSs are for everyone and not just nerds. I could never in good conscience wish that onto a person that isn't as tech interested.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    True, but I just mean that the same is coming for mainstream users too. so many apps are broken to shit or just websites in trench coats. eventually companies will stop paying for bespoke apps for every platform and move to web. Or, some mega corp that's threatened by Google's dominance will mount some n Linux phone campaign like Valve did for desktop gaming.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    My city's public transport updated the ticket machines and they suddenly started throwing an error and refusing to accept my bank card. I had to download and learn the app on zero notice standing at the tram station while already running behind schedule. I fucking hate that goddamn app and I hate the city for forcing me to use it.

    ⓘ This user is suspected of being a bear. Please report any suspawcious behaviour.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Im waiting so long for that, please any chinese brand please do it, free us from android and google

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Chinese androids are fine since they have nothing to do with Google.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    An android phone cannot have "nothing to do with google" because android is literally made by Google.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    true but Huawei has this:

    HarmonyOS NEXT (鸿蒙星河版) is Huawei's self-developed, pure operating system, marking a complete break from Android by dropping support for APKs and relying solely on native apps built with ArkUI/ArkCompiler

    it still allows you to run APKs in a container like EasyAbroad or DroiTong though

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Chinese ROMs in China are just AOSP with Chinese customisation. There is no Google Play Services and some vendors like Huawei are using it to transition to their own OS like Harmony OS. They're not dependent on Google in China.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Same.

    Nexphone isn't this, at least not currently, but I could see it lurching in this direction if it gets enough traction. Though no small part of me has the vaporware detector going off with this because it's promising a lot and at a very competitive price so I'm hesitant to put any hope in it until more info gets revealed.

    We really ended up on the wrong timeline when the boat sailed on the Ubuntu Edge 💔

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    • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Couldn't respond with a single tweet without using AI

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    • [+] 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    "sideloading" my ass btw.

    I'm not a fan of fucking with established terms, but I do wish news orgs would start consistently using the phrase "installing [uncertified/unapproved/non-vetted/unverified] software".

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    • [–] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Next phone is a flip phone or Nokia-style bar phone, call/text/Snake only, fuck this I'm out

    Edit: anyone making custom firmware or xmpp apps for flip phones? maybe I'm only out of the smartphome game

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    • [–] 14 points 7 months ago*

    This is one of the main reasons I even use Android over Apple.

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    [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    "high-friction" sideloading flow

    It's Android constantly fucking asking, "Are you sure about that?"

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    [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    HarmonyOS Next stays winning

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