submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by to c/technology@hexbear.net
 

i followed a "install any linux distro in 5 minutes" guide and after just 14 hours i finally have an OS that is running properly

as a long time hater i must say its very nice and i like it a lot, especially considering microsoft is hellbent on making windows the worst OS as quickly as possible. i will say, im a big nerd and this stuff comes to me pretty easily but i still think hoping normies will adopt this is kinda insane

anywho, its the year of linux or so i keep hearing

also if anyone knows why my keyboard keeps disconnecting every 30 minutes or so, i would very much like to know why. its an anne pro 2 that i am using with a wired connection

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[–] 23 points 9 months ago (1 child)

I've never heard of any distro called ama

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    [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    i got none swag unfortunately i am terminally straight kitty-birthday-sad

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (13 children)

    Which distro??? How did you choose? Have you played with different distros before? What took 14 hrs?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

    I dual booted Mint a long time ago mostly just to try the whole dual booting thing and to see if I could do it but it never stuck.

    This whole thing started yesterday because I saw someone doing some really cool desktop customizations with Plasma(?). So all I really knew was I wanted something with good documentation, is stable, and had kde plasma.

    What I didn’t know was how NVIDIA operates as a company and Debians philosophy as an org. I spent a lot of time trying to get nvidia drivers to work the way I need them to on Debian, cuz it turns out I agree with them on a lot of how they think but the support just isn’t there. Nouveau worked great out of the box but trying to run any games properly was a different story.

    After that I settled on Fedora KDE, I had some minor issues with their install process which i think were also caused by nvidia, but I managed to solve that and get the drivers sorted pretty quickly.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I used this method to install the nvidia drivers on Debian. I have the driver version 580.105 installed, newer drivers are causing bugs for me. The repository contains pinning packages to stay on a certain driver version.

    wget https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/debian12/x86_64/cuda-keyring_1.1-1_all.deb
    sudo dpkg -i cuda-keyring_1.1-1_all.deb
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install nvidia-driver-pinning-580.105.0
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install linux-headers-amd64
    sudo apt install nvidia-driver
    

    https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/debian.html

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    I knew I should have asked here first when I thought about it yesterday. I looked at Debians documentation and about a billion threads and GitHub repos and the only thing I didn’t think to check was nvidias documentation. I feel stupid.

    Also thank you if I decide to try it again I’ll do this. I’m kinda just trying to enjoy it at the moment after fighting with it all day yesterday

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The documentation is confusing. The official debian wiki does have a link to the page. That repository is maintained by Nvidia for datacenter usage but it works for desktop drivers as well.

    The page below has a tool for how to add the Nvidia repo on different distros. It also has the option to set up your own local repo. Do not use the install script named "runfile", it could brick your distro install. Only install the nvidia driver through the distro package manager.

    https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I do see that line about data center stuff and I think that just made me disregard it. tbh the entire documentation just kept giving nvidia the finger and kinda just made me feel like should go somewhere else lol

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    For a LONG time, the conventional wisdom was to shun the packages provided by Nvidia (as well as AMD in the proprietary FGLRX days) in favor of distro packages. These hardware companies used to ship distro-agnostic installers which would install the drivers and tweak the config files once, but they did not integrate with the package manager at all, and would inevitably break the next time you update your OS. The only way to use these drivers reliably was for distro maintainers to re-package them.

    Nowadays, AMD support is automatic (built into the kernel / Mesa3D), and Nvidia actually hosts their own package repositories instead of just a self-destructing installer. You should still prefer a distro package if its available, but the knee-jerk "never download the Nvidia driver from Nvidia" advice is not as true as it used to be.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    I switched from Nvidia to AMD for the simple reason that Linux support (out of the box) seems better. Plus AMD just looks (slightly less bad) by virtue of not being like half of the US economy. Oh it also helps that modern AMD cards can actually legit compete with Nvidia cards by now. Or surpass them in some respects like price / money ratio.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    What did you find difficult about making the switch? I think I was in a similar boat a couple years ago when I made the switch but it wasn't a hassle until I started trying to run pirated software and I had to learn some things.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The most difficult part was buying a 1080 way back in 2014 and suffering the consequences of NVIDIA 12 years later lmao, i haven't tried any pirated stuff yet so im sure that will be an experience

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Is it possible to import executables into steam and force its compatibility stuff onto it?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah it totally is, but it's less organized than the dedicated solutions because there's dependencies, like Microsoft Visual C++ or whatever that you have to handle for each piece of software, and Steam is a bit clumsy for that. So it's nice to use Lutris or Heroic instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    In theory, yes. In practice, it has never once worked for me the way everyone says it does. Just use Lutris. It actually works.


    ⓘ This user is suspected of being a bear. Please report any suspawcious behaviour.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Welcome to being gay and trans

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Welcome to the Penguin Club.

    I was on Mint for a while. Now im on Fedora. So far so good.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Every Linux distro basically runs into the wall that is "all of these little problems require large institutional money to solve" which means that hobbyists and even the professional Linux distro teams like Red Hat stand no chance because they're being compared to Microsoft and Apple. They can get a product that works really well don't get me wrong, but the amount of time and effort to QA at the scale the major companies do for their OSes is on another level.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Did you have to use an old version of Etcher?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    TAILS, the distro for tor/darknet usage, says that people should not use Etcher because the program sends telemetry data back to their servers, ie it records your IP address and what type of distro installer you made.

    TAILS is currently recommending that people use Rufus instead. There is also another program for creating bootable USBs called Ventoy.

    I always make bootable usb using the simple 'dd' command line tool.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago*

    This is an issue (probably a firmware problem) with that keyboard, not Linux. Someone in this thread said there are review saying it happens on MacOS too, even though the keyboard officially "supports" it.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Linux has zero problems with basic devices. If you're using some freaky niche hardware that relies on its own proprietary Windows-only software just to work (like the keyboard in question), then you may run into issues.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    also if anyone knows why my keyboard keeps disconnecting every 30 minutes or so, i would very much like to know why. its an anne pro 2 that i am using with a wired connection

    On Linux? If you search for about two hours you'll probably find a tutorial explaining how to fix it, spend two hours applying the fix, and then spend another two hours trying to find out why the fix didn't work.

    Source: When I briefly had Linux, it took me an hour or two to find out how to install my programs, the method wouldn't work, then I'd spend another two hours trying to find out why the method failed, which in all fairness at least you can still find out why the method that was supposed to work didn't.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Did you have any trouble with getting Steam games back up and running? I switched over a couple months ago and aside initial frustrations everything is fine, but I haven't been able to watch my stories play my vidya.

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