For fellow Americans living in cities where ICE is active, many people, especially those of Hispanic descent, are already carrying around passports on their persons at all times because they're rightfully afraid of being forcibly disappeared or deported to some random South American country.

A passport card can be obtained for $30 from the Department of State. It is considered exactly equivalent to a passport within the US, but it's the size of a credit card. It is a valid travel document for land and sea travel within North America and the Caribbean. It also counts as a Real ID. The card is good for ten years.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html

Do not do this if you are transgender or have an X gender marker. They will cancel your passport and tell you to apply for a new one with your sex assigned at birth.

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[–] 231 points 7 months ago (19 children)

YSK a card in your wallet won't help you much when an ICE agent points a gun at your head and tells you your passport looks fake, without even looking at it.

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    If this form factor for ID isn't well known enough for them to know about it, I doubt they received training on its existence.

    Which means having this card will make them assume it's fake by default. "That's not what a US passport looks like!" Thereby increasing their deluded suspicions, rather than reducing them.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    The problem is not lack of training. This isn’t a “whoopsie-poopsie”. They’re doing it on purpose and if someone looks brown enough they get kidnapped. With luck they get released later.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The main advantage is that it's a redundant form of citizenship ID. ICE can always say it is fake and confiscate it, but then you have your passport book waiting at home for your lawyer to take to the detention center to get you out (once they find out where they took you).

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Most Americans don't own a passport in the first place.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Anyone who fails the "Peter Griffin in a Fez" test needs to get one. And double up on the card and book.

    Because it doesn't matter where you were born, or what the facts are. ICE is targeting people who they believe don't belong here, based on how they look and sound. Having the card on your person is no guarantee, but maybe it will work if they are in a good mood.

    It's sad that this is what it has come to in America, of all places, but here we are.

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    [–] 87 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Lmao it's been shown multiple times that even with a passport shown to ICE they'll just call it fake if they want to abduct you.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yup I was going to comment the same. The physical passport might be useful after the fact once you're in ICE holding being processed after x amount of hours/days. But then again at that point they would look you up in their systems so having the physical passport in your wallet may end up being a waste of time anyway.

    The fact is if the ICE goon squad you encounter feels like arresting and detaining US citizens they're going to do it.

    And that's assuming the ICE goons don't make up charges of assaulting them or similar, in which case I'm not sure if those US citizens being charged get released with a future court date or are detained indefinitely.

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    [–] 82 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    You should know that you are not required to identify yourself to the gestapo. This post is in un-American.

    The way to combat these idiots is everyone refusing to show identification .

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    [–] 76 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Still seems like a hassle to have to pull that out. They should design something that's more outwardly noticeable like a piece of clothing or maybe just a simple armband they can wear over their clothes that signifies they're jewis-I mean legal or whatever.

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    [–] 69 points 7 months ago

    My goodness. I can't believe we are living in this era of fascism.

    Good luck United States folk.

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  • [–] 66 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    YSK if ICE thinks you're too brown, they'll just say yours is fake and deport you anyway. It's already happened to US citizens.

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    [–] 66 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    “YSK you should comply with authoritarian governments”

    Yall are so fucking cooked.

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    [–] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    If you have to prove you have rights then no one has rights.

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    You're trolling right? No one should need to unlawfully identify themselves at the bequest of nazis.

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    [–] 29 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    A REAL ID is also valid proof of citizenship. ICE clearly does not care.

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    [–] 29 points 7 months ago

    Ysk papers please within boarders is a regime in turmoil.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    Definitive proof of citizenship won't stop ICE from beating or killing you if you have an accent or non-white skin.

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    [–] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You think ICE cares? You think ICE even understands that?

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    [–] 27 points 7 months ago

    Would be a useful tip in a world where ICE follows the law.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Colored man reaching for something in his jacket or pants?

    YSK he's about to get shot.

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    [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    It won't stop them. Immigration and customs already had a large amount of unchecked power prior to this administration, but under this administration there isn't anything they care about. They've been murdering people in cold blood across multiple blue states for a while now.

    Besides that, if people start panicking and trying this then the necessary venues that people have to go to for their first passport(you have to show up in person for your first passport) could become ICE targets or places they stalk. It's not exactly uncommon knowledge that conservatives tend to not bother getting passports either.

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    YSK: you want to take up as much time as possible (depending on your needs) when talking to ICE. One minute talking to you is one minute they're not teargassing an infant.

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    [–] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    “This isn’t real” -ICEcuck

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    [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Alternate title:

    Give the government $30 to stop violating your civil liberties

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    [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Apparently ICE doesn't have to look at it.

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    [–] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm 100% not showing my papers.

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    [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    Having a passport card will definitely make it easier for the deportation official to release you after assault you, put you in handcuffs and take you to the station for speaking Spanish in a Mexican restaurant.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    This would be more effective if everyone just affixed a symbol to their sleeve.

    Maybe that symbol can be easily recognizable like a star or something. We can even make it bright yellow or gold so it's visible from a distance.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    I will absolutely refuse any unlawful order to see my “papers”.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    Reach for your wallet and get blasted.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    What a time to be alive.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Many others have pointed out multiple probably even more important issues with this. I'd just like to add that it's actually $30 to the state department and another $30 to the processing department (like the post office if you take it there) and another processing fee for the photograph.

    Mine was closer to $100 and cannot be used for international air travel.

    So unless you're planning a cruise or a land crossing, this is a $100 fee to try to avoid getting arrested.

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