cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/technology/p/1664234/jeff-bezos-said-the-quiet-part-out-loud-hopes-that-you-ll-give-up-your-pc-to-rent-one-f

A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

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[–] 63 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I will play old and low settings long before I succumb to rent seeking game libraries.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I'm on a quest to 100% every final fantasy game. Figure that alone is a good five years. That's without even looking at the fun indie stuff like What the Golf, Inscryption, or Factorio I or get distracted by.

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  • [+] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
    [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    Not a fucking chance, Jeff.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    Oh Jeff you sweet little Nazi. You are not getting my computer.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    This is already happening in the corporate sector. Up until a few years ago, our clients would ship us laptops that were ties to their security systems and authorized to VPN into their networks. Today, every single one of them have us doing our work through VDIs (cloud based virtual desktops).

    We considered cloud based VDIs for about an afternoon and immediately realized that a half dozen mini-PCs running VMWare, each capable of running 6-10 VMs would more than cover our needs, and all for less than $5,000.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Mini PCs running VMware? That's going to cause problems. No IPMI, no redundancy (RAID controller), probably single NIC so network throughout is limited, etc.

    Maybe not such a big deal if it actually performs and they run in a cluster, I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    All they donis perform as virtual PCs to connect to clients. The VMs are backed up to the NAS, so evennif I lose one, mini-PC I can copy it back from the NAS, boot, and keep on trucking. Remember, we are talking about VDIs, not home servers. Also, our Minis are geographically distributed between Texas, Florida and Wyoming. Two sites have Starlink network backup, each PC has a dedicated UPS and remote KVM, and each site has a Jackery power system and smart switch that can run the computer room for a few days on battery.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    bro thinks everyone has 10Gbps fiber at home

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    They can't even keep AWS running, how the hell are they going to host computations over their shit network?

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    That's kind of sily. You need some local hardware to run that virtual desktop environment, handle grapics and streaming. That means it's powerful enough to run a browser and some basic apps locally, what covers most of what people need. If you do need a virtual desktop for the few things not covered by a basic browser, you probably pay a lot for the privelege. Then you get people living in a region with bad internet, like rural places, who'll get fed up with laggy performance in no time.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Except for gaming and graphics related things, I predict we will see more and more of a rise of affordable compact PCs just on chips like beelinks/pi's/NUCs running Linux because of this.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Well, I hope you put your consciousness on a computer so we can force you to do the most annoying, excruciating, and boring tasks in the planet, Bezos. You can take my computer from my cold dead hands.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    And Elon wants to pay wall the self driving system in teslas or some shit.

    We will own nothing and we will be soooooo happy.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Taking a statement from three years ago to be upset about just means you like to be upset.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I’ll consider it if Jeffy-boy decides to pay my extortionately priced monthly electric bill each and every month. I think that’s a fair trade off.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    This may be there backup plan if AI demand doesn't materialize and there stuck with billions of dollars worth of data center capacity doing nothing. Could even cause a race to the bottom and bring game streaming to rock bottom prices.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    *their and then *they're. Is it REALLY that hard to use the correct one in the correct place?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (9 children)

    No, but I really don't care, and I don't really get people who do. Like your brain read it and understood it very easily, it's not like I'm misspelling something where your brain has to put in extra work to figure out what dreme means or something. At least for me my brain just reads it "out loud" in my head where there, they're and their have no differences.

    Legit question why do you care? Does it make it more difficult to read or understand?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    It's lazy and what a MAGA Trumpist with a shit education would do.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)
    1. Not everyone without a formal education is a trumpist, and looking down on them like that is classist and part of the reason we lost the election
    2. Using the right there is not a sign of a good education, good critical thinking skills, reasoning, eloquence and rhetorical skills do. Especially by college professors give less of a shit of whether you use the right your then if your argument is strong, well backed and makes sense.

    The only thing using the wrong there shows is that you're not an AI.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    Not everyone without a formal education is a trumpist..

    Yep. I went to work in a shoe factory at 17. No higher education myself but I can still muster an effort to use the correct word.

    ..looking down on them like that is classist and part of the reason we lost the election

    Now, that is a point where I totally DO agree with you, however with the current administration, it seems as if it is actively pushing for the public to turn its back on as much education as it can.. which is a far more evil and pernicious form of classism than calling out grammatical errors.

    The poorly educated vote time and again for people like Trump.. Who leverage their poor education and lack of economic competitiveness and use their rage and frustration to cement themselves into power.

    The current "blame the immigrants for taking your jobs.." mantra is of course bullshit, most Trumpists aren't going to pick crops in 100 degree heat, lay down roofing shingles in the hot Arizona sun, scrape shit out of bedpans in a nursing home..

    Those are the jobs they "lost" to immigrants?

    They weren't chosing to do that work in the first place which is why the immigrants came to do it. The racist nature of America's immigration policy guaranteed that undocumented folks would fill that gap.

    But back to education and classism..

    If the current adminsitration is working with a segment of the billionaire class that has been undermining educational standards and dumbing down the country for decades, (and brother, has it!) it's well past high time to fight back with brilliant arguments delivered in the best language possible.

    Again, I haven't been to college, and if the assumption is, because of my language skills, that I have.. well, thank you!

    My, that word soup you've got there in response sure is interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I've come to the conclusion that this is a personality difference between "judging" and "perceiving" in the Myers Briggs sense. You seem to be solidly on the judging side of the spectrum while I'm pretty far on the perceiving side. Neither is "correct" which leads to arguments like this, judgers are annoyed by perceivers for their laziness and perceivers are annoyed by judgers for their pedentry and chauvinism.

    Again neither is right, so the best thing to do is be aware of this difference and try to avoid the things that annoy people. Perceivers need to try to not make those grammatical errors and judgers need to not call them out for it.

    On the political side yes we should be making the best possible arguments in the best language when trying to bring others to our side, I'd say my original comment wasn't trying to do that, just an offhand remark but either way. Along with that we should avoid calling out and judging people for the language they use, as long as it's coherent and not offensive, as that alienates people.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Agreed! Not to get to off tanget, have you heard of Elle Cordova? - she is one of my favorite creators.

    I can appreciate when someone uses language well.

    What I find is that people hear what they want from politicians and a good linguist can cut through the noise and point out what the pols are actually saying.

    Before the election, Trump was saying that he was going after criminals, and the people that voted for him who were in the immigrant and latin communities were hearing that and thinking gang bangers and robbers.. not realizing that undocumented people were also criminals in that they had broken immigration law.

    No one wanted to hear it and I was out screaming at the top of my lungs this was going to come down like it was as Trump is a dyed in the wool racist. Was told I had TDS.. Really? Trump Derangement Syndrome isn't half as perilous an affliction as Trump Delusion Syndrome, in that the Hispanic Trump supporters thought he actually cared for them.

    Now, they're getting harased and detained by ICE because they're not white.

    TDS indeed.

    The racism, that's old news actually - he got it from his father who was even more barefaced with his bigotry. There's a reason that President Eisenhower loathed Fred Trump, aside from scamming government funds for Veterans Housing, which used to build houses to bare minimum standards of quality and design for the times than pocketed the rest. He also redlined neighborhoods and took funds for public housing and used it to build homes in tonier neighborhoods which he sold for handsome profit. Fred Trump was an evil man. Out of all his children, he did the most damage to Donald.

    The fruit did NOT fall far from that particular tree it grew on.

    Please do check out Elle Cordova's work, it's delightful.

    Regards,

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    Oh yeah, I've seen her before, my gf shows me her tik toks, didn't know her name or that she was on YouTube, will have to check out more of her stuff.

    I agree the lawyers that dominated, and still do to some extent, politics for the last half century did use very tricky language to disguise what they were actually going to do. Trump though doesn't really do that, take for example Venezuela, he'll either blatantly lie: "they're sending fentanyl" or be blatantly honest saying the quiet part out loud: "we're going for the oil".

    Even for immigration trump wasn't really hiding behind an implication that criminals meant murderers and rapists, he was explicitly saying they were only going after the murderers and rapists and just lying to his constituency.

    Trump just doesn't have the brain to come up with the weasely stances the ivy League lawyers have been using in the past. His statements are very direct and simple with little room for interpretation. He's using lies rather than language to trick people.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Legit answer: yes, it does make it more difficult to read, because it immediately derails my thought process as I get distracted by the lazy writing I'm presented with.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    OK, but do you get distracted by my use of legit instead of legitimately or the tons of other things we all do that simplify things but deviate from "the kings English". Yeah it's lazy but you understand it and that's all that matters, to me at least.

    What would you say to a person replying "is it that hard to say legitimately, just type one extra letter and your auto complete will do it for you"

    Also out of curiosity would you say you're "judging" in the Myers Briggs sense? Maybe this is just down to a difference in personality.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Capitalists take your personal property while communists seize capitalists' private property in turn. Sounds cool.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    stop radicalizing the gamers!!! we warned you.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago

    Just slap a Steam logo on it and watch that cash roll in.

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    From a pure technology standpoint, this makes all kinds of sense.

    But we can't trust them with our information.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    from a pure technologic standpoint this makes zero fucking sense. the latency alone, the complete lack of options for people far away from city centers. this is just a concerted effort to control the means of production, and the means of consumption. its unecessary unless you want to control the population. and milk them beyond death.

    we need to beginthe violence and sabotage portion of revolution. these psychopaths dont understand anything else.

    we need to begin raiding and destroying data centers. stop their construction, we need to target those responsible, and their families. we need to dismantle their ideology at its core. it is unacceptable, and the "high road" doesnt exist. its just another means of using fake morality for control.

    they are going to use this technology to soldify their vision of "benevolent slavery and genocide"

    we have to stop it, by any means necessary. ANY GOD DAMN MEANS NECESSARY.

    start calling your friends, start radicalizing the apathetic, it is time to arm the people and take back our future. before they completely disarm us forever. we are the many. we decide our fates.

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