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[–] 171 points 9 months ago (17 children)

I'm glad they did this. Confident in my choice to remain with Bandcamp.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    What's a good way to discover artists on Bandcamp? Most artists I listen to at the moment are with the usual big labels and don't sell on Bandcamp.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)
    • read Bandcamp's writeups. Sometimes they do a deep dive into a genre, city, or band. https://daily.bandcamp.com/
    • if you find something you like, scroll down and there's other users who bought it. Peek into their collections
    • if you scroll down further on an album, there will be more recommendations
    • you can search by genre or tag, too
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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is the best answer! Thank you for sharing your methods. I was going to reply about the daily editorial, but yours is more complete.

    I would also like to add that I type the name of things I like and often find them on bandcamp. Including big artists.

    Peter Gabriel, Evanescence, Run the Jewels, Flight of Conchords, Ghost...

    What I don't find there, I get from a thrift store (easy to find famous artists there) or quobuz.

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  • [–] 88 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Keep it up bandcamp. We are all waiting for when you enshittify like everyone else but you've held it at bay so far.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago

    They gave us a scare over the years, being sold around to companies that are famous for enshittifying platforms.

    Epic sold the company when people unionized, and the next did a trick to not recognized the union and "hire" half of the staff (contrary to fire half of them).

    The platform is not what has been 5 years ago, but it is still my favourite place to get music around.

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  • [–] 87 points 9 months ago

    I hope more platforms ban this useless spam.

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  • [–] 44 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Just watch, we’re two weeks away from some tech bro trying to start a Clankercamp website. The best part is that no one except other tech bros will care.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I really hope they do. I hope the build their own websites to host all of there slop and self-segregate. Please do it. It would be so easy to add a couple of slop domains to my pihole.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, I need to get back into Bandcamp

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Bandcamp consistently throws Ws

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    [–] 32 points 9 months ago

    Good.

    And sure... People will obviously try to break this rule, and I'm sure some will succeed. But that's true of any rule. Rules don't prevent bad behavior, only deter it.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago

    Great decision Bandcamp, I use Bandcamp to support musicians

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    Bandcamp is where you want to be if you want to support artists. they get money when you buy things from them on there

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    YES! YES!! YES!!! I hate having to sift through that tripe when exploring certain genres.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Neat, my current setup is :

    • stream from FIP.fr via cvlc
    • when I absolutely love a tune, buy on Bandcamp
    • if it's not available or I bought it elsewhere, e.g. old CD, then get from Soulseek
    • scp my ~/Music directory on my mobile phone

    I tried LMS for few weeks but honestly just plain VLC is enough for me.

    Anyway, point is, this decision makes me want to buy from Bandcamp even more.

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    I was buying some LPs recently and saw one that caught my attention. I looked them up and almost all their content included some form of AI.

    it's bullshit.

    fuck AI.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Are Bandcamp still the good guys? I thought they were bought by the big capital and now went down the drain. Artists' opinions especially welcome

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    [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If anyone needs to bypass this ban, for $3 I will record 1 minute of yodelling so your content isn’t pure AI. 

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    [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    good decision, also good decision to not ban all music with ai in it. like, we got so many pedals nowadays. live pitch correction? like wtf. how is that not ai. as long as there is some human pouring their blood, sweat, tears and soul into the music, that is what i want to hear.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Bandcamp W. One of the platforms I buy music from and surf other than soundcloud. You can find some banger albums by genre on there.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    It was being OVERRUN with AI stuff, hopefully this cleans it up

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Good on them on recognizing that slop is undesirable and shouldn't be encouraged, but that a full ban also kills the nuance of creative freedom and creates painful situations where a single AI tool anywhere in the process (even indirectly) gets hard work rejected, which could hamper aspiring creatives in their ability to (start to) get their work out there and (start to) make a living when they are not what (most) people have issue with.

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    [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I hope all my fave autistic musicians are not mistaken for AI and deleted under a false-positive detection of being AI. At least my fave's album releases all pre-date AI music generators. Safe, for now.

    I think safer would be to encourage all purely AI-generated be tagged as such, so it can be optionally toggled out of view, and then there's less incentive for the unscrupulous to simply hide that it's AI generated. Banning increases the "hide that it's AI" vibes, not the "don't do AI" vibes. Prohibition does not prevent. Prohibition makes the good things bad and the bad things worse.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Prohibition of AI does indeed prevent Bandcamp's servers from being overwhelmed by the storage needs of slop "artists" and the gruel they call their "music".

    I've been re-reading LOTR lately and I like to put on Middle-Earth ambience in the background. Do you have any idea how much LOTR themed ambient slop is on YouTube? There are channels with over 100 videos, each exactly a 3-hour slopfest of sounds with HD/4k resolution slop art playing on screen.

    Considering the vast majority of real artists might put out 5 hours of music in their entire careers, why the hell would bandcamp want to host hundreds of hours of fake music from a single source and pay for all that storage?

    AI is a plague upon humanity. Bandcamp is on the right side of history and I'm happy to have my music on their platform.

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago (27 children)

    That's nice. But I wonder how they detect them.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (23 children)

    There are usually some tells. For AI generated music (AIGM for short) the cover “art” is also AI generated. The vocals/style are different between tracks. Another method that I think was recently made obsolete was that if you opened the track in audacity it looked weird compared to regular music when you looked at the spectrograms because AIGM added some weird unnecessary noise to the music. AIGM “artists” usually don’t have any social media presence, they don’t really exist outside of the internet. No shows/interviews etc. Is it a lot of effort to find out whether something is AIGM? Maybe. Is it worth it? Yes, I don’t want to give money to people who desecrate the art or music.

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    As they should.

    On the other hand, if AI music was any good why would I go to bandcamp for it?

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