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[–] 144 points 8 months ago (13 children)

The apps are literally designed to keep you single

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  • [–] 105 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    While yes, that is the case, I cannot help but feel it's not the app's fault this time

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I used to think this. Then I went on some dates, I made connections, etc.

    But only once I started paying. The apps are built to maximize profit.

    Hinge > Boo > Tinder > Bumble.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This is exactly how it works - I became single after 13 years and so had no previous experience with dating apps, so I decided to go all in and get one month’s subscription to Hinge, Bumble and Grindr. Before the end of the month I was concurrently dating five people (four women and one man) as a bi man in his thirties. Shit was pretty cash.

    A lot of people asked me why I was so successful and I told them it’s because I paid for the subscriptions. For what ended up amounting to around $100AUD I got to date a bunch of people, had some great dates and great sex, and one of those five people is now my long term partner with whom I’m living. She was one of the ‘top recommended’ people on Hinge and the algorithm really got it right!

    YMMV but paying for the apps actually provides quite a good service.

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    [+] 90 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 80 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Even funnier with the timestamps

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  • [–] 71 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Tbf she made zero effort to converse with OOP either

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    [–] 56 points 8 months ago

    The issue isn't talking to women. The issue is talking to people you are attracted to.

    I'm bi but I'm not attracted everyone. And I can tell you it takes a lot more from me to talk to someone I'm attracted to and I don't think I could easily just be normal friends with someone I badly want to fuck and just have normal conversations with them.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    You may entice a woman with a piece of cheese. If she accepts you may then ask her to wed you.

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    [–] 44 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    The fundamental issue here is that they call this dating when it's something else entirely. They should have made a new name for it when it became like sifting through resumes.

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    [–] 39 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Women are literally just people. Talk to them like you talk to other people.

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    [–] 33 points 8 months ago (17 children)

    It's sad things like this that make me think, it's too bad church is all fucked up with religion. Because "Entire families, plus any single individuals, get washed and dressed up, then join under the stained-glass windows to sit and stand and sing and go through the motions, while all the eligible sweeties pretend they're not checking out all the other eligible sweeties, and have a whole hour to think of something to say to them over the coffee and cookies afterwards. Repeat weekly" is pretty much how a lot of people found partners for generations. Especially those whose families couldn't afford ballrooms and country clubs.

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    [–] 32 points 8 months ago* (26 children)

    Had a couple of lady friends who went on vacation to Europe - Spain and France, specifically - and had totally different experiences on the dating apps. Men were open and friendly, knew how to hold up a conversation (in non-native languages!), showed politeness, responded quickly, made first contact easy and low-anxiety, looked good, smelled nice, knew how to dance, charmed the panties right off them both, and then kept in contact afterwards. Like, even after they flew back home, these guys were still saying "Hey, what's up, here's something cool happening in my neighborhood can't wait to see you again".

    Just a radically different experience than the American dating scene. One friend straight up swore off American men entirely. She's booking a flight back to France for a three month go - working remote, learning the language, the whole thing - because of how blown away by the healthier and happier social conditions over there.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago

    Yeah but that's not dating that's a hookup. Completely different ball game. Much easier to maintain a facade for a couple of days when both parties know that there is no potential for relationship.

    Actual dating requires you to maintain for the long haul.

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    [–] 30 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That guy is a keeper! Lock him down and he'll be loyal for life! He doesn't even know how to talk to other women!!

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    [–] 28 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    bumble was designed so women could message first.

    the messages: "hey"

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    [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    As a cishet man who isn't passionate about hyping himself up and gets burnt out socially easily...

    No one on dating apps is worth the effort required to overcome the illusion of comparison. We don't know you and we're not going become infatuated over what you can put in a profile. At most our interest will be piqued, but we know we have to compete with HUNDREDS of other dudes and ...ehhhhh.

    To put it another way if I was at a party and there was a beautiful girl surrounded by 10 to 20 dudes I wouldn't even bother and instead try to have fun and talk to people I found interesting. But with dating apps pretty much every girl is always surrounded by guys like that trying too hard and the same guys are surrounding as many girls as possible since online they are not limited by the physics of space online.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    ...she even....she even opened

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago* (22 children)

    I was taught to treat others the way I want to be treated, but this causes friction when I want to be harassed and catcalled the way cartoon construction workers harass and catcall women, but women don't like that at all. 😩

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    [–] 19 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    Women are people so you talk to them how you would talk to another person

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ok but like. Dating and flirting talk is different from normal talk. More giggly, more vibes. Some people can't do that for shit

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Talking to women and talking to women you want to date are slightly different things tbh. The latter doesn't necessarily come naturally for all.

    And online, it gets even harder oftentimes. Creating a captivating conversation out of an empty bio, two generic photos and a name? That's still damn difficult for me and I've been on tinder for like 4 years out of the last 8. Obviously it's easier if the conversational partner throws you a bone. OOP didn't exactly have a great opener to begin with and then was given a "tyyy". Try riffing on that. Good luck. I can see why OOP gave up on the conversation.

    Online "dating" sucks. I'm sure women have their own reasons why it sucks (safety in particular), but for men it sucks because generally speaking, you're expected to prove yourself as an interesting conversational partner within 2-3 messages. Even on Bumble it's the same, as seen in the screenshot. Women have to write first there, but usually it's just "hi" or an emoji.

    So I also don't know how to talk to women. I have female friends. I'm not an incel, I've had a couple of long-term relationships and some, eh, situationships I guess? Even some with people I met on dating apps. Meet me in person? We're staying awake talking until 5 AM. Actually give me something to riff about in your bio or at least reply to me with more than one word? We're at the very least going to have a fun conversation, maybe meet in real life. But give me an empty bio and one word replies? I'm sorry, but I just don't know how to talk to you.

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    [–] 19 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    You have to know stuff, you can't just go there! Saying "hi" is a red flag, bad seed, you will be ghosted.

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    [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Dating concerns of the modern era: "Now, how do I make it clear I'm not a murderer without looking like a murderer 🤔 ."

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    [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    PSA: "tyyy" - thanks, ya yella yutz.

    Such language. Tsk.

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