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The number was on a card in a selling wallet to show how a social security card could fit in it.

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[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 147 points 3 weeks ago

In 1938, wallet manufacturer the E. H. Ferree company in Lockport, New York decided to promote its product by showing how a Social Security card would fit into its wallets. A sample card, used for display purposes, was inserted in each wallet. Company Vice President and Treasurer Douglas Patterson thought it would be a clever idea to use the actual SSN of his secretary, Mrs. Hilda Schrader Whitcher.

Although the snafu gave her a measure of fame, it was mostly a nuisance. The FBI even showed up at her door to ask her about the widespread use of her number. In later years she observed: "They started using the number. They thought it was their own. I can't understand how people can be so stupid. I can't understand that."

One embarrassing episode was the fault of the Social Security Board itself. In 1940 the Board published a pamphlet explaining the new program and showing a facsimile of a card on the cover. The card in the illustration used a made-up number of 219-09-9999. Sure enough, in 1962 a woman presented herself to the Provo, Utah Social Security office complaining that her new employer was refusing to accept her old Social Security number--219-09-9999. When it was explained that this could not possibly be her number, she whipped out her copy of the 1940 pamphlet to prove that yes indeed it was her number!

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, "they thought it was their own", that's exactly what happened. 🤦

Bless her heart.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago

I guarantee you that some of them did indeed think that.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ah the old krunning dugers

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 46 points 3 weeks ago

If you ever think "People can't be that stupid", you're right. They're stupider.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ha! Been using this wallet card number for years to put down for businesses that want the last 4 of your SS# for "security" reasons when you sign up for a service.

1120 is fantastic for adding a layer to your privacy.

Hell, as long as you can remember them, use ANY random 4 numbers. You mom and dad's birth months, your height in millimeters.. anything.

Your Social Security number is for government use only anyhow.

Business data scraping can get stuffed.

[-] cm0002@suppo.fi 64 points 3 weeks ago

Why not use 1077? The price of a cheese pizza and a large soda at Panucci's Pizza and my secret bank pin number

[-] VeganBtw@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

Lol! This is gonna feel random, but what is your mother's maiden name?

What was the name of your first pet?

And uh... where's your bank? Lol I'm so random.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Gleisner, Seymour Asses, and New New York. Want some anchovies?

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I period, C period, Weiner.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

..or, if you want 'close but no cigar', you could use 1701 which is the number of this thing.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

your height in millimeters

This varies through the day.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

True that. Can use the measurement on a specific memorable day.. or an event..

Just use any 4 mumbers that you will never forget.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

never forget.

0911, got it /s

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

I wish we could rewind time, have them use 123-45-6789, and see how many people still tried to use it.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

Probably about 40,000.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I have the same combination on my luggage, what are the chances?

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

I guess when the consumers you're targeting are apparently the type to need a demonstration of how a card fits in a wallet, you shouldn't expect them to understand that that card is in fact solely for the purpose of that demonstration

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

You could have big writing "FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY" all over it and you'd be suprised at how few would actually fucking read that text.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you want people to skip reading a certain piece of information, make it the title.

[-] Renorc@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Whenever I visit a grocery store that requires a phone number for member number it’s (area) 867-5309

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

One of my local grocery stores has it flagged so it locks down the self-checkout till a worker comes over and I forget every time I go T.T

[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

My grocery store has a house rewards program account that the cashiers are all more than happy to swipe the card for you if you ask nicely.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 weeks ago

What's special about that phone number?

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

That's Jenny's phone number.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In the order of red green yellow, very fast to type

[-] greygore@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I knew about the song, but I had never considered the pattern of the digits on a phone keypad. Thank you for this!

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 13 points 3 weeks ago

The first cards were issued in the fall of 1936. I wonder how many people were using this number deliberately because they didn't trust the government.

[-] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago

There’s only a billion possible nine digit number. There’s no algorithm to them. There might have been some level of regional allocation since my sister and I have the same first 3 digits, but I doubt that’s still a thing. Also TINs issued to corporate entities also draw from that numbering system, so there are significantly less than a billion possible SSNs

There’s about 350 million people in the US.

Just make up a nine digit number that doesn’t start with an 9 (IIRC TINs use the range of numbers starting with 9) and you have a better than 1 in 3 chance of getting it right.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

it's usually asked for in cases where it needs to match with your name because you're giving them your name also

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago

Pro tip - if you need to make up a fake SSN for whatever reason, make one of the digit groups all zeroes and it will be invalid. E.g 123-00-4567

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Remember to fund/develop your public infrastructure.

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