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[-] [email protected] 195 points 2 years ago

Pay a subscription to be fed ads. Reddit has become cable television.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wonder why there isn't an army of people in this thread telling us how it costs money to host a social networking platform and we shouldn't expect something for nothing a website has a right to charge users for access and if you don't like it then don't use it?

Like in the YouTube threads. 🤔

[-] [email protected] 77 points 2 years ago

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with charging for API access but the amount they're charging is ridiculous. Most reddit/lemmy apps pay for the imgur api, for example. Only difference is that imgur wants significantly less money than reddit so it's sustainable for app developers.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

That makes me think how a lot can be summed up as: people want to support what they love, but don't want to be taken advantage of.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

I do think there's a bit of merit to that, but I think the way it was approached and leveled at the community was really what created the true problem.

There wasn't much tact or frank honesty about the situation, Reddit and Huffman bred a sort of hostile environment by setting the tone. I could sympathize with the logical reason, but not with the execution and true personality that it belied.

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[-] [email protected] 95 points 2 years ago

Wow that sucks, It just sucks even more that a good portion of the Reddit Fanbase doesn't want to even try other platforms such as Lemmy which give much better user experiences in the end.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago

Lemmy not pulling in Reddit's general audience and Lemmy having a better user experience than Reddit are highly correlated.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

My Reddit usage is highly correlated with whether or not I'm at my desk.

I feel like I need to wash my hands after opening the official Reddit app on my phone.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

Idk honestly. Lemmy is quite an echo chamber in terms of tech stuff especially. I think reddit having much more content of all different types can make it a better user experience for most people. I find it hard to suggest lemmy for the average user who just wants to see memes and discussions based on their hobbies and interests. Lemmy is a lot less diverse.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

yeah I wish we had more variety unfortunately I don't have time to commit myself to be a mod for a community here

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

There's great lemmy apps too like Connect for Lemmy which has become my favorite. Handles multiple instances well and good filtering settings.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 2 years ago

Long before the APIcalypse, I was thinking of quitting Reddit. Now that everything went downhill, that decision became super easy.

I wasn’t really getting that much benefit out of Reddit, so it wasn’t a big deal. Spending time there was more like bad habit to me. The mere thought of paying for a bad habit sounds so absurd that quitting would have been absolutely mandatory at that point.

Fortunately though, Reddit already made the process so much easier simply buy kicking out my favorite client app.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Same here, it had been several months where I felt that the general quality had been declining. As soon as the AMA was done and nothing was answered I deleted the app (RiF).

Sadly I still miss some niche communities, but I've been finding substitutes

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 2 years ago

You can compile the infinity APK yourself with your own free API key and continue to use it. There are guides and automated scripts available that can do this for you.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Thats cool to know. Thanks!

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago

For those who don't know: Eternity (for Lemmy) is a fork of Infinity (for Reddit).

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

That's what I use, and it's great! I have been using Infinity with reddit for many years before switching.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Dangit that's literally what I'm working on haha!

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago

For some reason, Spaz thinks he's Musk. It's funny that Spaz is destroying reddit the same way Mush destroyed twitter, well... not funny "ha ha", but funny 'odd'.

How stupid must they be?

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Well in the reddit case there's a payoff and then one gets to walk away from the sinking ship. They just need to get things pumped up for the IPO and then who cares what happens from there. It's time to cash out and it becomes someone else's problem to deal with.

This IPO is the only thing that going to give them anything remotely near Musk money and it's not going to anywhere near at much where one can crash and burn another social media site for the hell of it...

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is their way of destroying global communication. We the people were organising using their sites. That obviously couldn't happen so they threw the toys out of the pram and its worked. There is less of a global forum with reddit and twitter fkd.

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm happy to buy an app, but I will not pay a $3 subscription for just an app and access to a repository of user generated content. I know the Infinity devs don't really have a choice, but this pricing model is ridiculous!

[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

My favorite bit of irony is how spez was throwing shade at third party apps for having the audacity to "profit" off reddits's work for free, when that is reddits's entire business model.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

Narwhal prompted similarly. Haven’t even thought to look since. It’s dead to me now.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

Relay for reddit was my choice for years and years.

As soon as that subscription deal popped up I uninstalled.

Hated to do that.. but I'm not paying reddit to feed me user generated content.

Boost for lemmy is the way now.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I could have written this comment word for word, except I'm on Sync now.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

First Apolo, then Narwal, Alíen Blue barely works, but not able to log in or search for particular sub, which was the main reason I was still using it. No longer a redditor, I identify Ada Lemmor

Edit- I’m going to leave it like that. You win auto correct

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

Nice to meet you Ada Lemmor

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

This is like seeing a photo of a friend that got murdered three months after they got killed just highlighting the corpse that is left.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I had been given the option to pay $3 or $5 a month in June to continue using Apollo to access Reddit with no restrictions (NSFW) I would have considered it. I trust Christian’s assessment that it wasn’t financially viable, though. The dev of this app admits at $3 they basically make nothing. If the app cannot be funded (aka dev make a living) Reddit is overcharging for what they provide and can go fuck themselves.

This basically still supports what Christian said in June…and still shows why Reddit was so stupid and toxic that they wouldn’t try to tweak the api dollar amounts to make it sustainable.

Fuck spez still. I admire what these devs are trying to do but Reddit does not want them to succeed, and Reddit does not want people using their apps…so it’s a losing battle

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

I love the pattern of prices. Price goes down but the last option is the most expensive.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

It's a paradigm that defeats itself. Reddit is basically reselling access to shit that users freely submit. They start removing access from users who don't want to pay or use the official (bad experience) app, and they will necessarily have fewer submissions and less content.

If its a hassle to go there and use it, and the payment structure disincentivizes their young demographic from using it, it is no longer the "cool kid" corner of the internet, which further removes the reason why other people would want to pay for it.

Imagine I'm a hypothetical Reddit user under the new model - what would be my incentive to pay them for the privilege of posting links, quality text posts, my girlfriends tits, or anything else for that matter?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Pay for API access but still no NSFW.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

I hope the people who are willing to pay a monthly subscription on reddit are a very miniscule portion of the user base.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

Here's the thing, reddit hopes so too. Reddit's goal isn't to make money on 3rd party apps, it's to price the api high enough to draw people to their free ad riddled dumpster fire of an app. It's the same reason you can't get nsfw subs on the api.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Likely yes, because it seems most of the people use the atrocious official client instead of third party client. And access through that is of course still free, well, paid by ads obviously.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Why did everybody have to close down if costs are fully covered with a $2.99 subscription? I probably would have paid for reddit is fun at that price for myself and my wife. Assuming it stays ad free.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

No NSFW content though

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Everyone couldn't have. The more users you have using a app the higher the API hits, the higher the number of API hits the more you'd have the charge. So the more popular apps with the most users couldn't survive ~~odd~~ on just $2.99 a month and certainly not while continuing to update and upkeep that app (or those apps) because they wouldn't be making any money let alone enough to justify the work they'd be doing.

Additionally this isn't an ad free version of Reddit you'll be getting with this sub. It's still Reddit with ads.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Boy, now I really want to go back! 🤣

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