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[–] 247 points 9 months ago (45 children)

I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.

None of these chuds have ever watched a minute of PBS in their adult lives.

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  • [–] 166 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Its a mistake to believe that this is an irrational or ignorant decision. These guys KNOW what the message of PBS is and there is a reason they don't want it to get to kids. They are making child soldiers and they don't want people giving them inconvenient values.

    You guys are telling jokes while the other side is building an army. Maybe start taking this shit seriously.

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    100%. American liberals really do think this is just more of the same old Bush-era GOP misbehavior and are responding to it as such.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The thing is, if you're an American and you know how hard it is to simply vote out fascism, and if you understand how close America's empire is to the brink of disaster, you're either running or, lacking the means, mentally preparing yourself for a struggle to survive.

    I pulled up stakes and left, but I still have to keep my sense of humour to stay sane.

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  • [–] 129 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    It's really easy! If you imagine that a black person and a white person could never be friends or spend positive time together, and then you saw a show that had them together, you might conclude the show is trying to convince you something is okay that you know is not. Propaganda.

    If you imagine that a gay person is inherently wrong, and that bad things deserve to happen to them as punishment for their choices, and then you watch a show where a gay person is happy and normal and respected, you might conclude the show is trying to push an idea on you that you already know isn't right. Propaganda.

    It's sad, and dangerous, but it's not complicated.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Thank you so much for commenting this. It's so annoying to see both the original screenshot and so many exchanges in here either playing dumb or actually being dumb about WHY they see PBS as propaganda. As always, people are more interested in appearing to preach epic gotcha wins to their own choir, while totally sweeping the real meaning of their opponent's statement under the rug. It's not being nice and learning to read that the right takes issue with PBS over, it's race, gender, and sexuality issues. But rather than respond to them on that more difficult ground, the masses choose to go for pointless low hanging fruit like "lol so you hate kindness????", and then congratulate the OP for owning the right, meanwhile the right is totally unphased by that completely off-topic mark-missing response. And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago

    I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.

    Propaganda, that's how.

    The Reich wing is infuriatingly effective at using projection as both a defensive measure and an assault.

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    [–] 140 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Ah yes Arkansas, the beacon of education. Happy to keep their citizens illiterate and ignorant.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Arkansas ranks 45 out of 51 states in education.

    So, let's say the kid gets up at 6am. PBS listings:

    • 6:00 -- Pinkalicious and Peterriffic: Gingerbread House; Christmas Tree Trouble: "Pinkalicious" and Peter build a gingerbread house that attracts Sarafina, a holiday fairy
    • 6:30 -- Curious George: George Digs Worms; Everything Old Is New Again: George's entry into the world of worm racing faces a giant hurdle when Mr Quint picks up the wrong lunch box; George learns about recycling, and sets out to recycle everything he possibly can.
    • 7:00 -- Sesame Street: Elmo's Morning Routine: Elmo and Abby help Crystal the Ball invent a morning routine.
    • 7:30 -- Milo: Milo the Decorator: Otto is needed elsewhere, so Milo and pals set to work painting Dame Delores's ballroom.
    • 8:00 -- Work it Out Wombats: Zadie's Horrible Haircut; Zadie's Horrible Haircut; A Day Out With Babby: SUPER anxious about going to the barber, Zadie decides to cut her own hair. To fix this disaster, Zadie needs to face her fear of getting a haircut. When it comes to playdates, Malik discovers that smart devices have their limitations.

    Golly such offensive content. The kids might actually learn something on Sesame Street!

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    [–] 89 points 8 months ago (5 children)
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    [–] 71 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    PBS isn’t perfect, but it’s publicly accountable and transparent—more than most for-profit networks.

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago

    The fact that American taxpayers actually finance right-wing indoctrination to a considerable extent seems to be overlooked here, which is probably due to this very right-wing indoctrination.

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    Edit = This will in fact cost PBS a small amount of money.

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    [–] 52 points 8 months ago

    Kind and smart are just not MAGAt values

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    How does the state have the power to prevent PBS from being broadcast? PBS is broadcast on affiliate stations that aren't owned by the state (usually)

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago* (33 children)

    bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe, WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg

    Then chalk this item up with the million-and-one things that are completely ignored by the spiritually purified lazy mediocre idiots who passively let all this happen, this death by a million-and-one cuts, since Reagan.

    But boy oh boy by golly, they sure do feel they are doing their part by chuckling at political zingers online, after the damage is done, because they let the mouth-breathers through the front door and gave them the goddamned keys to the house and car in the first place.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (30 children)

    Keep pretending that the Democrats lost the election because of a conspiracy of online users further to the left of you, and not because they ran a botched campaign with an unelectable candidate.

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    [–] 32 points 8 months ago

    When your entire platform is "dumb people will let us do whatever the hell we want", reading and education become your enemies.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    "Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of yourself" as per Goebbels

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    [–] 28 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    When the orange rapist dies these freaks are going to keep dragging this nation down for the remainder of our lives.

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    [–] 26 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Wait a minute! This is the most American thing I've ever heard of... So, you're telling me Americans fund TV channels but they complain and talk shit when someone talk about free healthcare?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    PBS is a remnant of an older America that attempted to improve things. It's mostly funded by donations just like national public radio. Both are highly politicized because they have a history of apolitical pursuit of truth and that made them boogeymen of the right. The right has also done some capture of them because of that (much like the bbc).

    Also universal healthcare is something we're actively and intensively propagandized against. Despite that it's still more popular than our politicians would have you believe.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So, Mr Rogers, Sesame Street, Nova... were all propaganda?

    The letter of the day is F, for Fake Fucking News.

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    [–] 24 points 9 months ago

    This is stupid on so many levels.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I hope PBS then starts teaching kids that it's pronounced Ar-Kansas, not Ar-kin-saw.

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    [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    The disparity between red and blue states keeps growing...

    For anyone from Arkansas: disparity means contrast

    (I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I know our Arkansas blue dots here on Lemmy aren't dummies)

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Its such an insignificant amount of money to fund PBS. It's mostly paid by donations and sponsors anyway. If they really wanted to save taxpayers money they should look elsewhere first... but thats a harder question that might rustle a few of their own feathers. Not only do they try to take the easiest route that doesn't involve their side, but they want to make people think it's a win. PBS isnt greasing their palms, so out it goes.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I'm aware of at least one MAGA person with a kid who is like 10 and can't read.

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    [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    They're trying to catch up to the shittiest educational states around them in a race to the bottom.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    Glad I moved away from Arkansas

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    Propaganda here means “facts and uncomfortable truths that interfere with OUR propaganda”

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    What is Americas "public tv" without pbs?

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    i think this poster thinks "public television" means "available for viewing by the public" rather than "available for use by the public"

    we have become a nation of consumers. not of makers, maintainers, or even owners. just consumers. the public broadcast system is in many places the only network where you can see a documentary made by your neighbor. but people who think like this, like pbs and voa are the same, would never think to make a documentary, or to learn more about their local community. these people really buy into the "there is no two americas, there is just america" propaganda. the reality is that there are 13 american nations based on cultural identity, and within those, another 3 based on access to services thanks to class based identity, meaning the 2 americas line of thinking introduced by jimmy carter could get most people closer to understanding the empire we live in, but there's really 39+ americas.

    cutting funding to pbs means that there will be no exploration anymore of Arkansas' identity. they will now be subsumed into a national identity that does not care about Arkansas. no one will be able to speak truths about what it means to be from the farthest reaches of greater Appalachia to people living in new york city.

    these people think they've told the coastal elites to shove it, but they've silenced only themselves, and have chosen to only consume content made by and for those very coastal elite. they have willfully chosen to enter into their own modern dark age. and they celebrate it, gleefully, because they haven't the education to understand what it is they've done

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