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PBS is "the propaganda"?
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I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.
None of these chuds have ever watched a minute of PBS in their adult lives.
Its a mistake to believe that this is an irrational or ignorant decision. These guys KNOW what the message of PBS is and there is a reason they don't want it to get to kids. They are making child soldiers and they don't want people giving them inconvenient values.
You guys are telling jokes while the other side is building an army. Maybe start taking this shit seriously.
100%. American liberals really do think this is just more of the same old Bush-era GOP misbehavior and are responding to it as such.
The thing is, if you're an American and you know how hard it is to simply vote out fascism, and if you understand how close America's empire is to the brink of disaster, you're either running or, lacking the means, mentally preparing yourself for a struggle to survive.
I pulled up stakes and left, but I still have to keep my sense of humour to stay sane.
BIG lol at anyone who thinks voting is the way to fix this.
Yeah, alright. Big lol at anyone who thinks knowing history magically makes you safe, while we're at it.
lol. Everyone knows the only way to fix this is to troll liberals on Lemmy. lol.
Yep. Yeah. Yes.
It's over.
It's really easy! If you imagine that a black person and a white person could never be friends or spend positive time together, and then you saw a show that had them together, you might conclude the show is trying to convince you something is okay that you know is not. Propaganda.
If you imagine that a gay person is inherently wrong, and that bad things deserve to happen to them as punishment for their choices, and then you watch a show where a gay person is happy and normal and respected, you might conclude the show is trying to push an idea on you that you already know isn't right. Propaganda.
It's sad, and dangerous, but it's not complicated.
Thank you so much for commenting this. It's so annoying to see both the original screenshot and so many exchanges in here either playing dumb or actually being dumb about WHY they see PBS as propaganda. As always, people are more interested in appearing to preach epic gotcha wins to their own choir, while totally sweeping the real meaning of their opponent's statement under the rug. It's not being nice and learning to read that the right takes issue with PBS over, it's race, gender, and sexuality issues. But rather than respond to them on that more difficult ground, the masses choose to go for pointless low hanging fruit like "lol so you hate kindness????", and then congratulate the OP for owning the right, meanwhile the right is totally unphased by that completely off-topic mark-missing response. And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.
Tolerance for others and their inherent traits is basic kindness. So yes, if you are not OK with black/queer people than you hate kindness.
Modern western "right wing" are outright fascists. We should not concern ourselves with what they think of us, except if it helps us fight their ideology. You won't be able to convince them with logical arguments of any quality, because they hold their position not because of logic but because of repeated propaganda that leverages the inherent human fear of unknown and different.
The most realistic way I see of things changing is as follows:
Capitalism will inevitably squeeze those people harder and harder, until they can't afford groceries and rent, despite millions of immigrants being deported and woke TV programs being banned. At that point they might question their ideology and yearn for change, and the left needs to be ready. If the western left once again squanders its potential and do-nothing neolibs (a-la Biden or Harris) get back in office, you can kiss your civil rights goodbye, because they won't fix the fundamental issues with the system and the voters will swing to fascists again the next cycle.
What needs to happen is that at least demsocs like Mamdani getting into offices all over the country. If that happens, they might at least do something to fight against capitalism and unlimited extraction of surplus labor, and improve material conditions for people, at least a little bit. If that happens under left's watch, people will associate the ideology with good material conditions, and will appreciate its other tenets (human rights, equality, tolerance, inclusion) more. Whether this leads to vaguely left-wing rule for a while, a-la FDR, or an actual outright revolution is of course questionable, but it's the only way forward for the US IMHO.
Y'all need to make a third party that represents the left, because Democrats never will.
Start with local elections and build your rep, you need a genuine left leaning pressure on the politics of your nation - showing that people will show up to vote for real left leaning values is the way.
The DSA should become a party of their own right.
We've had third parties of various types for centuries, it has become a financial impossibility for third parties to succeed in modern America.
With Citizens United and hundreds of new billionaires, I think it's possible.
I completely understand your argument and I agree, but I would also say that acceptance of other races, sexualities, nationalities, etc is , at its core, just kindness, and that MAGA generally dislikes kindness toward anyone who isn’t cis, white, and American, or a token minority who agrees with their policies. That’s kind of one of the main problems with MAGA.
They don't even like kindness for themselves. They like rigid obedience. The instant anyone steps out of line they get beaten into submission or disowned.
Very well put
If you imagine a channel that endorses genocide... Oh wait no need to imagine.
I must have missed that episode of Sesame Street. Could you link to it?
Reality has a well known Liberal bias.
which type of liberal? north American or RoTW?
this is a stephen colbert joke from his colbert report era. he was portraying a right wing media troll, so in this case, liberal means liberal the way rush limbaugh, sean hannity, tucker carlson, ben shapiro, or nick fuentes means liberal. it's anyone who thinks living in an oligarchy is a bad thing
Nah. Reality has no preference for a capitalist hegemonic ideology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
It's just a reference to Colbert talking at the White House Correspondents dinner in '06 lampooning how conservatives seem to constantly have beef with objective reality. Calm down kid.
Propaganda, that's how.
The Reich wing is infuriatingly effective at using projection as both a defensive measure and an assault.
I have an uncle who thinks anything to the left of NewsMax or OAN is "too liberal" (yes that includes Fox News). The indoctrination is real
Cool, and your uncle has a nephew who thinks PBS is not propaganda. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
Or maybe they did. Seaseme Street might go over the heads of maga voters. And Mr Rodgers messages of inclusion and empathy are far out of their mental grasp.
It's Arkansas, what did you expect?
Maybe if PBS ran a show on how to hook up with your cousin?
That's how we got into this mess to begin with.
If it's not their propaganda they think it is the other way... instead of ya know... just facts or basic learning.
"Think"
Arkansas
Heh.
Most people are idiots and the bell curve isn’t as wide as you’d like to think.
And there's always the George Carlin perspective:
Think of how stupid the average person you meet is.
Now, realize that half the population is dumber than that.
To give some uh, anchoring to this...
The average American adult... a d u l t ...
Is currently as literate as a 5th to 6th grader.
In conclusion; Yes, it is objectively correct to state and believe that most people are idiots, at least if we're talking about the US.
... and Arkansas... is pretty damned close to winning the idiot contest.
"Powerful stupid", you might say.
Well, technically, anything that spreads a message or ideal is propaganda. If you think something isn't propaganda, it's because you already agree with the message.
It's just that in this case the message is "Be kind. Science is cool" and only a christofascist would think that is a bad thing to spread.
TBH their support of genocide is far from kind or cool.
How many children upvote this nonsense?
PBS is literally overt propaganda. The amazing thing is how people don't see it. We're so immersed in the hegemonic narrative, the droning voice of the state that we can't recognize the obvious overwhelming bias.
The most glaring recent example is their complete endorsement of the genocide in Palestine. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
How many times you gonna link that same Wikipedia article in this one thread lmao.
Someone didn't watch enough Sesame Street as a child xD
omfg 🤣🤣 yes. I think you cracked the code lmao!
When did PBS endorce the genocide?
Ah yes the hegemonic narrative of..... the scientific method. The droning voice of....kindness.
What a hellscape.
where and when did they overtly endorse genocide in Palestine? their newshour coverage of national events has been more critical than the other national outlets and is literally cited as one of the main reasons elon and trump wanted to defund pbs