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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is not true. I am not from the US or a lawyer but these donations sould show up on your receipt and count as your direct donation to the charity. The store is just a middleman and does not get any benefit. Here is a random, semi recent article about it you can find a lot more if you look it up online.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.

When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn't get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don't know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don't think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn't make anything from it.

This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do not, at least in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

If it's far more vague, like, "Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa" the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company's own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they "help poor kids in Africa."

And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people's utilities like they aren't raking in record amount of cash.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

First, please don't link to Reddit...

Many Of The Largest Charities In America Are Giant Money Making Scams
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/many-of-the-largest-charities-in-america-are-giant-money-making-scams

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Just FYI this is a sort of scam. The company donates the money on your behalf and they get the tax write-off for your donation while also appearing philanthropic for PR purposes. that's why they do it.> e fair, I bet these companies strike deals with the charitable organizations to in turn raise visibility of those charities among the company’s customers. Furthermore there is no contractual obligation they actually donate that money or how. They could just be lying to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They cannot, and do not, claim your donations on their taxes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@zombuey I've heard that a lot, but it is apparently not true unless the company claims your donation as a profit and then writes it off, which negates any tax benefit. I think it's more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it’s more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

Yep, even without any direct financial benefit there is certainly a reason to engage in such behavior. The store gets you to associate it with the charity campaign and they'll make hay over the amount of donations they helped collect and their partnership with the charity. Drives for employee donations can also be used in a similar manner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They cannot claim it as profit if they are following the law.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate when they pull this shit at drive through fast food. “Would you like to round up to donate to our charity?”

Who knows what the person taking my order thinks about this charity, and what they might do to someone’s food who says no.

Edit: The fact that merely implying a fast food worker wouldn’t be a complete perfect human being gets so many downvotes says a whole lot about this community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can assure you that nobody working at the fast food restaurant gives a shit if you donate to charity.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Those donations you make can help them deduct from taxes, right?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People that give money for those charities are giving those companies free tax write offs.

You donate $10 or whatever. The company can then claim that $10 as a write off via donation to that charity. Campaign as a whole (either regional or national) collects $1M USD. Corporate accountants write off donation. Tax liability reduced.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not how tax write offs work. The only way to claim that money in a write-off would be for the business to also claim it as revenue. That would even out, with no tax savings. Businesses also don't handle donations that way, they usually serve as a collection agent that just passes your donations on without being able to claim it towards their revenue or their tax write offs. The only person who can write-off their donation is the person who actually made it.

The reason businesses do it is for marketing. They get to put out a press release saying "They helped donate $10 million to puppies without borders."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s not how tax write offs work

Jerry: So we're gonna make the Post Office pay for my new stereo now?

Kramer: It's a write-off for them.

Jerry: How is it a write-off?

Kramer: They just write it off.

Jerry: Write it off what?

Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.

Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is.

Kramer: Do you?

Jerry: No, I don't.

Kramer: But they do. And they're the ones writing it off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Puppies do not recognize your silly imaginary borders and will commit zoomies across any such lines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that's not how it works. In order to do so, they'd have to first claim the money received as income.

That said, there are scummy things that they do. At the least, it's saying "we [bigcorp] donated $1,000,000 to charity" when in reality all that they did was collect it. In other situations, companies like Sobey's doesn't actually pass on food bank donations as cash, but rather have then as credit to buy products only from Sobey's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's messed up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Shell's audacity too...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's still fine.

Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then they will say it is more efficient to merge the donations with regular revenue and make bulk donations every quarter or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

PSA: most Americans can get up to $300 deducted from their annual taxes through donations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hate when any company I'm buying something from does this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just say no

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bad example, grocery stores usually have small margins and aren't making a lot of money off of you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is actually true. But those small margins add up to a huge profit overall. Still, they probably could not afford to donate $20 per shopper.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bad example, grocery stores usually have small margins and aren't making a lot of money off of you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How bout the fact if they achieved their goals, they wouldn't have a problem to have a charity for and thats a bigger concern to them. They'd rather not help people than not exist. They may as well just pretend they are the poor people their campaigning for. Or be technically homeless and donate to themselves while living in charity(company) owned residence

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nah the charities are usually legit. But the companies aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, it's a massive tax write off as well as free PR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just wait until you get a tip prompt on a self checkout kiosk...

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