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[–] 118 points 3 years ago (9 children)

Oh man.

Quark is absolutely backwards: Quark believes he has no dignity and is a heartless profiteer. He turns out he is an empathetic lovable guy with dignity.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    The Grilka episodes show this best. The House of Quark is an honorable one.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Quark: I should've listened to my cousin Gaila. He said to me, "Quark, I've got one word for you...weapons." No one ever went broke selling weapons. But did I take his advice? No. And why not? Because I'm a people person. I like interacting with my customers. Like you and I are doing right now. Talking to each other, getting to know one another...

    Garak: I can see the attraction...for you.

    Quark: But when you're dealing in weapons, buyers aren't interested in casual conversation. They just want their merchandise, no questions asked. It's so impersonal.

    Garak: Your charms would be wasted.

    Quark: Exactly. So now Gaila owns his own moon, and I'm staring into the abyss. And the worst part is, my only hope for salvation is the Federation.

    At least his fortunes seemed to have changed by Lower Decks' time, judging by all the Quark signs everywhere.

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    [–] 101 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    I'd contend that the O'Brien one needs to be changed slightly.

    O'Brien foolishly believes there is something which cannot be taken from him. It is taken away from him while forcing him to endure incomprehensible levels of psychological and emotional torment.

    There's a post I saw ages ago which said a lot of O'Brien episodes can also be summarized as "Watch the Irishman suffer" and that has never really left my brain. Just living there rent free.

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I always love the Watch the Irishman Suffer episodes.

    I would also personally modify the Quark one, because sometimes they show his (repressed) compassionate side.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    It is surprising how much PTSD he has for someone who's just supposed to fix the ship

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    That's why he's so good at fixing things. He can't fix himself, so he puts all his effort into fixing everything around him instead.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Basically this but with fixing things.

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  • [–] 86 points 3 years ago* (8 children)

    Garak is a simple tailor. He resolves an impossible situation in the least tailorly way possible yet somehow maintains plausible deniability.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I remember one episode when he is not on drugs, and starts telling truths to everybody. That one explains him.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Well no actually. In that episode he tells Bashir at least three different contradictory stories. Though right before Garrak thinks he's about to die he tells Bashir that he was really ashamed because he fucked over his best friend and we're lead to believe this is the actual final truth. Then you later find out the friend's name he gave Bashir was actually just Garrak's own first name and that every story Garrak told was a likely a complete fabrication. In the end we know nothing more definitive about him or why he's at the station.

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    [–] 47 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Jake naively and brashly tries to explore some aspect of himself for personal growth...

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    The one thing that I always remember about Jake Sisko was an episode where he was trying to hide something from his dad, and at the end of the episode, dear old dad catches him trying to teach a young Ferengi how to read.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Jake ended up being my least disliked Star Trek child actor. He wasn't always great, but he is miles above Wesley.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    Jake and Nog felt like they were written to be actual teenagers growing up. When they get in over their heads, it is believable. And when they grew up, they became fleshed out characters.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 years ago

    Alternative episode: Sisko believes that he can solve something in the normal, intended way and not a horrible, fucked up way. He solves it with baseball.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Kai Winn shows up and ruins the episode

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.

    —Rule of Acquisition 109

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    - Quark believes that he has made some profit. He loses it.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Rom: “Well brother, I suppose the real profit was the friends we made along the way.”

    Quark: “What?! No. I’m docking your pay for that.”

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Rom: “hey brother, remember the time I led a strike against you, put you in a position to lose everything, got you beaten nearly to death by Nausicans, then when you finally met my demands violating Ferenghi law and risking your business license I told everyone to take the deal and I quit?”

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    I haven't yet been able to watch DS9 from beginning to end .... I've seen episodes here and there but never saw the entirety.

    So my question is

    What about these Garrick episodes I keep hearing about?

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    From someone who did the same: there is no way to understand what DS9 is about without watching it end to end, it's just designed differently than TNG or TOS or Voyager, which were made for people to catch individual episodes and feel like they watched something. DS9 has intricate plot points that expand over an entire season, and then on into the next. I thought I knew what the show was about, but I was so very very, wonderfully wrong! Instead of it being my least favorite, I see now that it's the deepest of them all, though they all have their individual contributions, especially for the historical time they were released in.

    So my advice is to wait until you have a few hours, then watch all of season 1. You'll be glad you did, and can decide when to find time to continue with season 2.

    Learning about Garak will be infinitely more satisfying that way:-). He is one of the most "interesting" characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    He is one of the most “interesting” characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

    To borrow a quote from B5, "No one here is exactly what he appears."

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Garak? Why, he’s just a simple tailor

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I always loved that ... in an age of replicator technology, instant manufacturing and duplication, automated systems and digital recreations ... no one ever finds it unusual that there is an individual of the species that was a former military opponent posing as an old school clothing merchant on a space station.

    It would be like having a simple humble scientist from 1940s Germany working as a common rocket engineer in the American space program in the 1960s .... weird right?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    Yup I have to save this post. I agree with folks about Quark, however I'll add the wrinkle that the things that make Quark grow emotionally only serve too shred his dignity among the Ferengi.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago*

    Also occasionally we remember the Marquis exist and have an episode about them. Sisko comes up with basically the same solution as always, but at least it's not the Dominion.

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