Following on from the success of the Steam Deck, Valve is creating its very own ecosystem of products. The Steam Frame, Steam Machine, and Steam Controller are all set to launch in the new year. We've tried each of them and here's what you need to know about each one.

"From the Frame to the Controller to the Machine, we're a fairly small industrial design team here, and we really made sure it felt like a family of devices, even to the slightest detail," Clement Gallois, a designer at Valve, tells me during a recent visit to Valve HQ. "How it feels, the buttons, how they react… everything belongs and works together kind of seamlessly."

For more detail, make sure to check out our in-depth stories linked below:


Steam Frame: Valve's new wireless VR headset

Steam Machine: Compact living room gaming box

Steam Controller: A controller to replace your mouse


Valve's official video announcement.


So uh, ahem.

Yes.

Valve can indeed count to three.

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[–] 131 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 80 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    You know what's fucking funny? I went to search for that on Tumblr and found this fucking post from ELEVEN YEARS AGO.

    Bro was not given the dodgeball of prophecy nicely, he got straight up sniped in the dome by Apollo with a 90 MPH shot LMAO

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  • [–] 73 points 10 months ago (40 children)

    Intriguing. Eager to see the price of the Steam Machine.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (24 children)

    Some are estimating around $800, but Steam has commented that affordability is a primary focus.

    I feel like they've got to beat console prices. I'm hoping we see prices similar to steam deck at launch complete with varying tiers.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Gamers Nexus reported cost will be in line with budget PCs and not competing with console pricing

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    If it hooks up to the tv and has controllers, it is 100% going to compete.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    My guess would be that around $800 sounds roughly right... if you try to approximate a small form factor pc with... roughly those specs?

    You'd kinda end up around there, but... the architecture is so nonstandard, its hard to say.

    You gotta think of it as an SFF PC not a console.

    Because its closer to an SFF PC than it is to a console.

    Right like, this thing is also a PC, its a laptop or w/e if you plug a mouse and keyboard into it.

    I run desktop mode on my Deck all the time, use it as a laptop/tablet of sorts.

    As far as tiers go, GN has said there are plans for a 512 GB and 2TB variant, so, there's at least two tiers.... I would not expect like, more or less GDDR5/6 RAM variants though, the whole thing is built too much around the exact power draw and thermal load.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    But on the other hand, Valve have economies of scale, so they can build this thing cheaper than a normal person can build a PC. Plus, they don't need to make a huge profit on this stuff. The purpose of the hardware is to sell games. At least that's what I'll keep telling myself until we find out more.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    But on the other other hand, tariffs, and RAM just doubled in cost in like the last month, because... well this time its not bitcoin miners buying all the GPUs, its... the entire AI industry is a multi trillion dollar scam.

    Hilariously, one way to read this announcement is that Valve expects the AI bubble to blow up by 'early next year', thus lowering RAM costs, ahahaha!

    Holy shit, Valve is clowning on MSFT so fucking hard right now.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    There's no display, no battery, no controller included, no OS fees.. I think it could be cheaper than $800.

    Because it's all custom hardware we don't really have a great basis for comparison. I'm going to guess that the cheapest variant will be something like $650. Doubt more than $700 though.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Agree it has be price competitive with consoles. Though I wonder if making a docked Deck be on equal footing with the Machine would have been a better use of R&D. Maybe simply improving having the dock house an eGPU and bumping the Deck specs.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Me too. I'm not really into VR but I definitely want the GabeCube.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I have a PSVR2 and I don't consider the capability of VR to be its failure. I have to assume it's just that much harder and more expensive to develop for VR. Like the FPS genre is hugely successful, and that's such a natural fit for VR.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I think it's just an accessibility thing. VR is expensive, and it takes people pushing through some disorientation/nausea to really enjoy it. Many will simply feel sick the first few times they try it, decide it's not for them and leave it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Just place a fan on the floor in front of you. Bam! No nausea. Because now your body instinctively knows your position and orientation in the space you're in.

    It's such a simple thing but it really works!

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    As someone who experienced nausea. I've tried all kinds of tricks. They all help, just like Dramamine or those bands with the beads that 1/10 pain.

    It took quite a while to get over the nausea. A lot of starting and stopping with slightly longer sessions each time.

    I fully expect that most people would not be willing to do that but I received the system as a gift and I really liked it. I wish they had more longer games. I'm so tired of the games that are 30s of concept and then do it over-and-over.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    My thoughts exactly. I'm a console gamer. So a straightforward all-in-one box is great.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    ... and this also just is a linux computer.

    Just go into desktop mode, plug in a mouse and keyboard, your TV is your monitor.

    So, that means it can be a light duty office work type PC, webbrowsing PC, home media center, etc.

    Just maybe plug an external hardrive into it, or get some SD cards with a TB of storage, for music and movies.

    Oh and of course, it can emulate basically everything that doesn't already exist as a PC game, via something like EmuDeck or RetroDeck.

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    [–] 38 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    So we got the Gabecube? That's funny.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    As long as they don't F up the price of the Steam Machine, then this would be wonderful for both the gaming and Linux communities.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I suppose it’s not the first time Valve has counted to 3; in terms of releasing 3 projects. They released the Orange Box which had 3 games in it. But they never put out a 3rd iteration of things.

    So expect this to be the last Steam Controller and Steam Machine, if we count the old 3p hardware Linux boxes and Index headset they helped with.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Now we just need a power modification so that all of these devices run on actual steam, and controlled by valves.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    The Machine, the desktop/living room console... It has a 300W PSU. GN has the Valve designer saying its generally just a tad over 200W of draw.

    So uh... that's practically nothing, you could probably actually power that out of a homebuilt steam turbine + power station (like for solar panels, home backup power unit type thing).

    For reference, an Nvidia 5090 needs 575W... just by itself.

    An AMD 9070, non XT, on its own, uses 220W, approximately what the entire Steam Machines uses.

    The Steam Machine does not even have a 3 prong connector.

    Its just two, like a power brick for a console.

    So we have SolarPunk gaming now, I guess?

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    [–] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Half Life 3 as Launch title?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Imagine. Product is released, people buy the Steam Machine, and Half-Life 3 is just... there. Preinstalled on some of the units. The buyers post it on the internet and get called bullshitters. Then Half-Life 3 is officially announced the next day. The internet loses it. Gaben ascends to godhood. He. Has. Cooked.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Anyone in the market for a kidney or two?

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Not myself no, but, you may have some luck with Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator, which is available at... well, you know where.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I thought the link would lead me to the Rimworld page.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 10 months ago

    Fair guess, haha!

    Nope, turns out, thats a whole game in and of itself.

    Also, while vanilla Kenshi doesn't really do specific organs... you can always just peel somebody, swap some limbs around, or just toss a torso down a hole, I guess...

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I am at least getting two controllers but the steam frame and the steam machine looks super cool too!

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Okay what the hell is up with the Frame?

    It says it is a stand alone headset and doesn't need a PC... Right before it goes on to say it's meant to be used with a PC but wirelessly. Is it stand alone or not? If I have Beat Saber in my library, do I have to stream it from an actual dedicated PC or can it run straight off the headset like I can with a Quest?

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Its both, based on their article. Its an ARM chip they have a translation layer called FEX to handle, so it should be able to play most any steam game. Native vulkan games will apparently run even better because it can skip some of the emulation and just hit the vulkan API directly for rendering. It has onboard storage, so it can be used standalone.

    In standalone mode, the intergrated chip will use about 20w, so you will get about 1 hour of playtime on it because of the 20wh battery. In streaming mode, the graphics will be better, and the power use cuts to about 6w, so it can go 3-4 hours. It has an integrated usb port, so you can easily plug in a bog standard battery bank and put it in your pocket for longer play times.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Just want to add an hour in VR is a LOT longer than 1 hour of flat screen gaming. If you haven't used VR then they aren't as comparable as you think.

    You're usually on your feet, holding your arms up high, waving them around ,likely squatting - a lot and you've got a screen blaring into your eyes with constant high intensity stimulation.

    Most people won't do 1 hour sessions on the regular, forget a 3-4 hour session without being put down to charge for while you take a break.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I've done a 3-hour session playing Beat Saber multiplayer with a friend. It was the most intense workout I've ever experienced.

    The only break was in the middle to refill my enormous water bottle and to clean up the huge pool of sweat on the floor that was getting gross (I was wearing socks, LOL).

    My arms hurt for like three days straight after that. I still played every night though 😁👍

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    [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I would love the Machine as a case for PCs. I'm not sure how feasible it is (knowing PCs probably not) but i've already got a gaming PC that's far more powerful in terms of GPU and RAM. I'd love to be able to shove it in there and have the best of both. That light on the front has me especially interested despite just being a light

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    [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I'm certainly lining up for the steam controller to see how it feels.

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