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[–] 142 points 10 months ago (156 children)

I dated a vegan for several years. Am a meat eater. There were no issues. The stuff she cooked was delicious, and the stuff I cooked she ate around if she had to. We respected our differences and it made us stronger

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (62 children)

    I'm inclined to be skeptical of there being no issues on her end. vegans have to tolerate a lot that we would prefer not to, but that doesn't mean we like it.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (25 children)

    You would put animals on her plate and have her eat around it ?

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  • [–] 66 points 10 months ago* (22 children)

    By "eat around it" I mostly meant she let me cook what I wanted when it was my turn, and if I had time I'd make a second serving with meat substituted for something else (mushroom, artichoke, etc.). If I didn't have time, I'd keep the base and the layering separate and offer her the base to flavour however she wanted.

    When we visited my parents, she'd just pick out the meat chunks and actually eat around it no problem

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    NGL, if I was vegan and went to visit my inlaws and they made me pick out the meat chunks, that's pretty shit hospitality.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Her parents cook twice when we visited them, but the extra work was shared between both her parents so it was fine.

    My mother's the only one that cooks. Her cuisine is very traditional. My ex understood this

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    catching strays out here, my dude. sounds like a really positive take on something people find divisive.

    cooking for others is so special - I'm glad your family shares that. my parents don't cook, and certainly never took an interest in meeting most of the people I dated. but now my partner and I cook for them. they don't like everything we make, and pick around the stuff they don't want. everyone's happy, so it all works out.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    it's also important to be a good guest. a host isn't a servant. they didn't make anyone do anything; they offered food and shared their home, and that's pretty cool.

    also, doesn't sound like in-laws. "dated" implies casuality, and also past tense.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    You're very much presenting a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't scenario. As a picky eater (non vegan) I've found that if you're unwilling to eat something a host made they get upset. They may never directly say it, but there's always some negativity. Bringing your own food is considered disrespectful, for better or worse. The "rules" of politeness and manners in these types of situations sadly don't follow much logic.

    So, if a host knows there is a vegan and prepares a dish with meat in it, what can the vegan do? Separating it out doesn't seem good, there's still probably meat juices and things they don't want mixed in. Bringing their own food will seem rude and disrespectful to many hosts. Refusing to eat will likely be viewed as them being overdramatic by the hosts.

    So while it's true that the host has no true obligation to prepare something separate, they're still knowingly putting the vegan guest into a catch 22 scenario. The host isn't under obligation to provide food at all but they are and they're knowingly choosing something that a guest can't pick due to dietary restrictions.

    I'm basing this on the types of gatherings and families I grew up around in the American southeast. It's not universal, of course. Even here it isn't. But I also believe the types of hosts who would be tolerant of you not eating or bringing your own food are also the ones who would be polite enough to separate the meat before and cook them separately or they'd make something the vegan guest can eat just in general.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I gotta say, she may have just been nice about it.

    Had that relationship gone on a long time, this probably would have been an issue. She cooked delicious things for you, where you could relax and enjoy, but then she has to do additional work to be able to eat when you cook. Seems like you got the better end of that deal, and weren't accounting for her needs.

    While we both eat meat, my partner doesn't prefer it, so we've switched to mostly vegetation, including my cooking. Sometimes i make meat dishes, but it's mostly reserved for when we go out. I've learned to adapt because the last thing she needs is more work to do when it's not her turn. This is how almost every veg-meat relationship that has lasted that I know of went.

    Not saying this to be pointed, perhaps your situation really was unique, but I'd take some time for self reflection on what her perspective might have actually been.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Why are there so many people in this thread telling this guy what his vegan gf actually thought

    Stop projecting. You don't always need to be right. It's ok for other people to have different experiences from you.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    "she ate around it" . Sounds frustrating. You must be packing...

    And before people downvote, I didn't mean violence. Wrong packing. Turn off your tv. Take a deep breath and dip your head in the gutters a little bit

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    You must be packing…

    The terrible secret about cooking with meat is that the flavors of the meat get into everything else on the plate.

    So you eat around the steak, but you still get the intense savory flavor in the carrots and the spinach and the rice and the beans.

    And then the dog learns to do increasingly adorable tricks for leftovers.

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    [–] 96 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

    If he butchers the rich, it's a match made in heaven.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    And now together: Change your diet for the climate, eat the rich 👏👏

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    [–] 71 points 10 months ago

    I’m not vegan by any stretch, but I also like any restaurant with a strong vegan option. A mostly plant-based diet is better on my tummy. I’ll eat a steak, but then I’ll eat vegetarian for the next two weeks while I digest it.

    Lots of reasons to end up at the same statement :)

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    I guess you could say he... butchered that date

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I wonder whether they decided to meat again after

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    Opposites attract and all.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Jack Sprat could eat no fat.

    His wife could eat no lean.

    And so between them both, you see,

    They licked the platter clean.

    I've seen couples make it work. The guy gets to learn all about these really delicious vegan curries. The woman finds out how much meat gets thrown in the trash and maybe doesn't feel so bad when her husband rescues a prime rib or a sea bass filet or a dozen scallops the size of your fist from getting chucked in the dumpster at the end of the shift.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    A lot of vegans see animals as deserving of the same dignity as pets or humans. With this mindset the "thrown away" meat is about as much of a waste as burying your grandma instead of eating her.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is a false equivalence. We regularly "throw away" remains (by burying or incinerating them) that could have been donated to science or organs that could have been donated to patients in need. Eating discarded meat seems more morally equivalent to ensuring that grandma is an organ donor. It's not as if discarded meat in a landfill or buried Grandma's in a cemetery are contributing in any meaningful way back to the ecosystem.

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    [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    i worked in the meat department when i met my gf. shes vegetarian. i think she was more okay with it because her dog liked smelling my clothes after work😂

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    Like the word fuck. Cool can mean many things and express a full range of emotions.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    She did say a good vegan option so it doesn't seem to be a non-negotiable

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't see the issues here. Not every vegan is one for ethical reasons, and many of those who are vegan for ethical reasons only do it for themselves. The only vegans that I've seen that can't comprehend the idea of respecting others exist exclusively online.

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    [–] 5 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    Sounds like they’re set up for a long and happy marriage!

    I’ve heard of atheists being married to deeply religious partners. Card carrying democrats being married to magats.

    If you can accept each other despite a deep difference on something like that, you should have no problem getting everyday disagreements!

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