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[-] JoshsJunkDrawer@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Whatever tiny hope of correcting this died when Trump was re-elected. It's been game over for a while now. That's not to say we shouldn't try to make a difference where we can, but it's too late for Earth.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Whatever tiny hope of correcting this died when Trump was re-elected.

The bulk of greenhouse gas emissions are occurring outside the US. Americans have a far higher per-capita output but a relatively small gross population. Even then, the median American's emissions pale beside that of their billionaire neighbors.

If global change comes, it is going to have to come through the BRIICS, where the bulk of new industrial activity is taking place and the vast majority of emissions already occurs. Trump decoupling the US economy from the rest of the world and his inadvertent quest to tank the fuck out of the US consumer economy is (quixotically) working in favor of these ends.

It’s been game over for a while now.

The game isn't over, its simply changing. Areas of the world that were habitable will no longer be habitable. Mass migration began in earnest 20 years ago, at the outset of the Iraq War and near-total destabilization of the Middle East. Population growth globally has staled out due to exploding cost of living and economically engineered social isolation of the working class. Foodstuffs that we once considered staples - beef and almonds and oranges - are increasingly categorized as luxury goods.

But we've been in the Holocene Extinction Era for over 200 years. This is the sixth great extinction event in planetary history. And through it all, humans flourished. Hell, the advent of modern nitrogen fertilizers have made plant life flourish. The Earth isn't going anywhere. Humans aren't going anywhere (certainly not Mars, given how much more inhospitable it is than even the most nightmarish climate change scenarios). Life as we know it and human engineering as we've managed it are both far more stubborn and persistent than you're giving it credit for. We can endure at a much more efficient level of biome utility than we currently employ. We can persist at a scale of hundreds of millions rather than tens of billions.

But we're going to see sweeping changes. Really ugly ones. What we're seeing in Gaza today is the roadmap for the future of the Global South, unless they can organize and resist a modern western eugenics regime. There is going to be more war and more bombing and more industrial annihilation and more sophisticated efforts by one group of humans to massacre others.

That's probably good for the climate, long term. Not good for us or our kids or our grandkids, though.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

The world is being run by conservatives and fascists.

The world will not change course, humanity is borked.

[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

bye bye world

[-] flango@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 6 months ago

The good news is that it is still something we can deal with. I mean, to just give up is to let the current "owners of the world win" ( billionaires and gang).

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

And how do we stop those billionaires?

The way that I see it, they won't stop by themselves. We either get politicians to finally stop them (highly doubtful) or the world citizens stop them by force.

What other solution is there?

[-] remon@ani.social 8 points 6 months ago

Time to come up with a new target we can miss.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Over the course of the history of the planet, there have been several extinction events, and then over time, new life evolves from what remains creating new biodiversity. The only difference is that the mass extinction is being caused by an apex predator, (humans,) instead of a meteor, or volcano. The earth will incorporate plastic into the new ecology. It's already happening. We will go extinct by making the planet incompatible with human life; other life will exist and thrive.

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

we would not be the first organisms to create harsh conditions.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

But it took a lot longer than 150 years to fuck the planet

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[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Dumb ways to die, so many dumb ways to die.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

I've always liked Antonio Gutteres. While a politician, he has been the most honest of them when it comes to climate change.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

eh, covering up Covid for China for a solid 6 months wasn't great.

[-] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah sure, tell that to the billionaires that are actively ruining the planet.

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Gonna need to get those Coke-drinking polar bears a fridge...

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Hot climate take: Having children is the most selfish thing possible.

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