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[–] 165 points 11 months ago (17 children)

The UK destroyed a lot of wealth (at least for the middle class and below) through Brexit for starters.

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  • [–] [S] 116 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Brexit being weirdly absent from the article. Funny that.

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It was obviously all because of woke and the transgenders.

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    In general, it’s not a great article because it doesn’t excitation much at all, just that Poland grew. Btw the comparison with other EU countries in the graph is also interesting. Overall, a stagnation, with Poland a significant outlier

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Quite literally, for over than the past decade, Poland (and Hungary) has been boosted by being heavily subsidised by the EU. Any country receiving over 2% of their GDP in subsidies per anum for over a decade would grow like crazy, to the point it's no longer 2%, and yet... The real question is why are we still subsidizing Poland at this insane level while blocking the full acession of Romania or Bulgaria, who arguably, need our help much more than the poles or Hungarians do.

    Year;GDP; Subsidies 2005;284.4;3% 2015;$537.5;2.2% 2023;$811.2;2.5%

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    The real question is why are we still subsidizing Poland at this insane level while blocking the full acession of Romania or Bulgaria, who arguably, need our help much more than the poles or Hungarians do.

    Who would clean the toilets?

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    Yeah I was just thinking it must be Brexit. Poland probably didn’t grow that fast, but UK decided to shoot itself in the foot to level the playing field.

    Looking at the GDP graph though, it looks like UK has been lagging behind since 2010. Can’t really blame Brexit for all that.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's right wing politics

    2010 the Tories came into power and tried to austerity their way out of the financial crisis, which even at the time was criticised as being the wrong plan

    2016 we get Brexit

    2020 we had the COVID mismanagement that kept us in lockdown much longer that we'd have otherwise needed to be

    2022 we get trussonomics

    2024 was Rishi trying to win votes with uncosted policies

    2025 our traditionally centre left party is trying to court the voters going to the far right. So we are getting more austerity

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Brexit was neither the cause of, or the solution to, UKs problems. It just made everything worse.

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It was like trying to fix a leaky tap by ripping the sink off the wall and then being surprised by the fact that not only has it not fixed the problem but has now created several more problems as well and the whole mess is now so much harder to fix.

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  • [–] 73 points 11 months ago

    with the neat trick of meeting halfway

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It didn't, the UK just destroyed wealth.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago

    If someone's going backwards when someone else is going forward it's real easy to meet in the middle

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago

    All of the UK bigots who hated on the poles over last three decades in shambles.

    I guess that's why are hating on brown immigrants now, makes the cope easier

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I'm a simple man.

    I see a newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch. I downvote immediatly.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    it's easy to catch up to someone that's not moving. I'm glad for the Polish people and really hope the people of Britain are able to organize and move towards a more direct democracy that will ensure the wellbeing of its citizens.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Answer: Poland is running forwards, the UK is running backwards.

    Curiously, this very newspaper is did a lot of work in making the UK run backwards even faster, most notably during the Leave Referendum.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The Witcher sold like a lot of copies.

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    [–] 14 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    GDP per capita is $24,810 vs $53,195. Although Poland's recovery after the fall of the iron curtain is great, there is no need to exaggerate.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    "In 1995 Poland’s GDP per capita was $13,600 in today’s money — about 36 per cent of Britain’s and roughly the same as Brazil’s. Today Poland’s figure is $44,500, or 81 per cent of ours. "

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

    Look anywhere else other than the article and you'll see that's not true

    GDP per capita =! GDP per capita PPP

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You're confusing nominal us dollars and adjusting for price and inflation, or what the OECD calls Purchasing Power Parity (PPP). This is what the article uses and is more meaningful than nominal gdp per capita.

    Here's another source. Also uses the OECD's PPP.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I can't read the article and I'm going by what you quoted which says:

    Poland’s GDP per capita.

    And I said:

    GDP per capita =! GDP per capita PPP>

    I think you're the one who's confused

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    You need to look at the article. That's not my problem.

    Edit: You edited in GDP per capita =! GDP per capita PPP after I posted my reply. What in the living fuck is wrong with you!

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Alternatively: How has the UK fallen so fast?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    thetimes = goilet paper regardless if you agree with the piece or not. Don't contribute to the propagation of shitrags, ignoring them is the best way to stop them from profiting from your gaze.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    They make very good sausage, or, Brexit like what everyone else says.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    GDP PPP per capita:
    - European Union: 64,545
    - United Kingdom: 63,661
    - Poland: 55,186

    wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    The impressive thing from OPs article - Warsaw region exceeds UK regions (greater London):

    While this isn't uncommon for fairly centralised countries (vs eg Germany with several industrialised cities), only a few regions are worse off than UK's.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago
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    Paywall?

    It might help, but I don't think one paywall can account for a whole country's GDP.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    The magic trick of making less unforced errors

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  • In before "Cos all the Poles took our jobs, and sent all the money home to Pole Land!!!!!"...

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