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Been watching over the recent surge in fediverse users for about a week now. Last week, it was climbing what i would call naturally, organically. Now for the last couple days, its been like 350k in the last 2 days.

Love to see the growth of users, but these have to be bot created accounts. I dont want this to be bot infested community. I see the value in bots when used correctly, but lets be real - general population and bots could ruin this community.

Is there anything planned? Is there work from some third party to throw off the "stableness" of Lemmy / fediverse?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think some of it comes down to admins who left their (small) instances open (no captcha, no application, no email validation) not knowing how bad an idea that currently is given the maturity level of Lemmy and the (very recent) influx of bots. I am reaching out to the admins of the fastest growing servers according to [FediDB[(https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse) if it looks suspicious (based on growth rate, participation rate of their users, and if the content posted by users). In many of these cases we are talking thousands of new accounts in the past few days on instances that have single-digit active daily/weekly users.

So far the responses I have gotten have been appreciative and the admins are taking action, but not everyone has responded. Also the tooling to find and delete such accounts is pretty lacking as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not all heroes wear capes. Awesome job!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There has been a big surge in bot accounts

https://lemmy.ml/post/1391903

Basically many of the newer instances allowed sign ups with no bot protection

This is why we can't have nice things and need to deal with CAPTCHA and email verification etc..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People seem to be aware, and taking steps to deal with it: e.g. https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/65767/Introducing-The-Lemmy-Overseer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

there's no karma to farm. there's no algorithm to game. the best they can do is spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And spamming can be a serious problem for forums such as Lemmy communities

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. They can be used in influence campaigns. They can upvote the posts and comments the controllers want you to see and downvote those they don’t.

Spam’s obvious and can be dealt with. Bots altering what shows up in your feed is impossible to combat as an end user.

In some ways, this shows Lemmy is winning. It means Lemmy’s important enough to start trying to influence. It also means we’re about to go through some interesting times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder what will happen to the users that already registered without email (Like me). Maybe I should add an email to my profile, just to be sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the bot accounts being used for? I haven't noticed any posts made by bots (unless you guys are all ChatGPT and I'm the only human here)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an AI language model, I’m not able to confirm whether or not I’m a bot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am not a language model of a modern major general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes I wonder if the people I'm talking to are even real humans. Their responses can be so totally out of left field.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you considered the possibility that everyone on the internet is fucking crazy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Haha, maybe. Depersonalization does seem to do weird things to people.

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