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[–] 163 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I don't call them Nazis because I dislike them, I dislike them because they're Nazis.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    No they are fascists, Nazi was the shorthand for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), the first 4 letters.

    Fascism gets its name from Italy, Mussolini's Fascist Party, but it is the name for the political ideology as a whole, there is no Nazism and Americans being called Nazis is kinda weird, imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

    Thanks for coming to my stickler talk.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    If the situation were flipped, and Hitler was rising to power ~80 years after we had a massive war to take out MAGA fascists, then yeah I think people would refer to them as "MAGA", at least at first.

    Nazi means refers to National Socialist, but at this point in history, it can also just refer to political movements that are fascist and Nazi-like. The meanings of words shift over time.

    Edit: Fixed to appease a pedant.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I don't live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

    It's semantics. The German and American fascists all pull from the same ideological and rhetorical playbook.

    Veneration of the national security state. Zealous religious orthodoxy. Obsession with loyalty oaths and ethnicity sorting. Reflexive xenophobia. Institutionalized quackery.

    It's all the same shit. Same as Apartheid Africa. Same as Kuomanting China. Same as Pinochet's Chile and Milei's Argentina.

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  • [–] [S] 76 points 1 year ago

    "It is the correct word for donald trump and the people around him"

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 50 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Oh! This is the guy who talked about what a shithead Fetterman was even before the stroke! I could never find it again but I remember his face.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, some more news is one of my favourites. I tend to listen to it like a podcast when i am driving to and from work. But the visuals help sometimes.

    Its a great showdy.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Cody seems so dispirited for months. Not that I blame him at all.

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Watched this yesterday and "Charles Entertainment Kirk" fucking murdered me

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Generally, the people who claim the meaning has changed or been watered down are fascists or their sympathizers or prescriptivists that fail to understand how language evolves. Watch them come out of the woodwork to explain how nobody is a nazi because the National Socialist party doesn't exist anymore. Buncha stupid fucking bastards.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    fuck that. I wish harm on fascists. lots of it. so much harm that other fascists are scared to even be associated with the word.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sir that is Cody's Showdy and he is a srs journalist not a shitposter

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish harm on them 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only good fascist is a very dead fascist.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was thinking that another exception would be those who open their eyes and leave it behind, but then they are no longer fascists. So you could say their old fascist self is essentially dead too.

    So while I do prefer this method as some ex-fascists may turn into anti-fascist advocates, and we can always use more help against fascism, it still doesn't really counter the adage.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    But I do wish harm on fascists...

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Just watched this a bit ago. Very good video.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Words don't matter here. All that matters now, is action.

    Sabotage them any way you can!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    https://youtu.be/nD3rSA4FSqk?t=4982

    "What is it that you want people to do when you call them fascists?"

    We want you to stop being fascists, you blithering idiot!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    If you look like a fascist and talk like a fascist and act like a fascist you are probably a freaking fascist and that's the way people are going to deal with you until you give them evidence to the contrary.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Although by some coincidence, the people we call fascist tend to spend alot of their time wishing alot of harm on all sorts of people they hate.

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