what I do know is that the people making these announcements are completely untrustworthy
You are being overly kind. These people are BATSHIT Crazy.
what I do know is that the people making these announcements are completely untrustworthy
You are being overly kind. These people are BATSHIT Crazy.
This will go away as soon as J&J pays the troll toll. We are in the "and I don't care who knows it!" stage of the kleptocracy.
I’m very happy I didn’t get diagnosed when I was younger, it’s sad though that I have to make the choice to not get diagnosed to not have to worry as much
Weird how the famously autistic Temple Grandin had been alive for 8 years when Tylenol went on the market.
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Also:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406
Findings In this population-based study, models without sibling controls identified marginally increased risks of autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) associated with acetaminophen use during pregnancy. However, analyses of matched full sibling pairs found no evidence of increased risk of autism (hazard ratio, 0.98), ADHD (hazard ratio, 0.98), or intellectual disability (hazard ratio, 1.01) associated with acetaminophen use.
I don't know the background for the bullshit here, but I really doubt anyone is implying that it is the ONLY cause.
That is easily explained. Temple Grandin's parents were time travelers from the future where Tylenol existed, making Temple also a time traveler as a baby to have a birthdate recorded 8 years prior to Tylenol's release to the market. /s
Thank you for sharing! Saving a click: So there was a first, flawed study, which studied the link between Tylenol and autism on the basis of correlation (not causality), and they failed to factor in other underlying reasons why parents who end up having an autistic child might use acetaminophen slightly more often (ex: the parents themselves have a condition that makes them take Tylenol more often). The new thorough study clearly demonstrates that there are no links.
The experiments that proves no connection between Tylenol and autism has been done two ways:
In the 80s there was a tainted Tylenol scandal and sales were suspended and all pills recalled. Sales dipped to near zero for years. No difference to autism rates.
Many countries avoid Tylenol use due to liver toxicity. No difference in autism rates.
For all the reasons Tylenol should be pulled from shelves, autism probably isn't one of them.
Look, acetaminophen is one of the most harmful OTC drug without this nonsese.
If they stop here, fine. But fight it like hell.
I think the reason people overdose on Tylenol, and often don't realize that's the problem until their liver is failing, is that for decades Tylenol was presented as the "safe" choice for fever and pain control. Which really just means it's not going to give little kids Reye Syndrome. But because you've absorbed that idea as a little kid, you're not looking for danger unless you specifically re-learn about overdose hazard. And too many people don't, because shitty education. Then you add all the mixed "cold and flu" OTC medications with the ingredients in tiny print, and the fact that by the time you have uncomfortable symptoms it's probably too late to pump your stomach, so people die. And that's without counting in the little ones who got into the grape chewables or drank the whole bottle of the baby's bubblegum liquid.
Editing to add: In my experience, Tylenol just doesn't do a very good job of easing pain, which might also lead to overdose. It never worked for my severe period cramps, which Advil did. And there's a case of a man dying because he took 5 extra-strength every hour trying to control his dental pain, which I would never do but I can affirm it doesn't do shit for toothache either.
But autism? Nah.
A combination of ibuprofen and acetaminophen (paracetamol) is a crazy effective painkiller. It's been found to be even more effective than some opioids. Watch your dosage, know what you're taking, and it's perfectly safe.
If you do that, be sure to space them out, alternating, with at least a couple of hours between. Having done it on doctor's advice, I've noticed the Tylenol is barely enough to keep me hanging on as the previous Advil wears off and until I can take the next one. I'm not 💯% sure it was helping at all, but at least I could say to myself, "surely it will be kicking in any moment now..." until I got through to where I could start saying "Only half an hour more until you can take the good stuff."
I think people have idiosyncratic responses to pain meds. I don't respond to Aleve either. Aspirin is mildly helpful. But a single Motrin was all I needed the day after a C-section.
My doctors have said to take them alternating, not at the same time, and it has worked to smooth out the waves a bit although I'm definitely aware of the difference in effectiveness.
And yes, that dude must have been crazy, badly misunderstood directions, or just in such agonizing pain he didn't care he was killing himself. Sadly, liver failure is also a painful way to go.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/820200-overview
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acute-liver-failure
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5962381/
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/acetaminophen-toxicity-what-pharmacists-need-to-know
You ... You didn't try at all, did you?
The dosage they describe as overdosing in adults is 24x that of a high strength recommended dosage. That does not seem "easy" to OD.
Lol who downvoted this
Tylenol is not nephrotoxic. It's metabolized by the liver, and it can absolutely cause damage in high doses, but I think your statement is in error.
Alcohol is worse. Why is no on banning it?
If you take too much of something, it becomes harmful. What an epiphany.
I mean the sheer amount of sugar in our food has to be the largest cost to lifespans/healthcare in the U.S.
Id like to see us make a change over time introducing not bans but better ways to regulate packaging.
I don't want it to have warnings everywhere and dead fetuses and shit, I just want things like, green boxes, blue boxes, magenta boxes, stuff like that. Maybe an easy to see letter in the lower left for those who are color blind
What dead foetuses? Paracetamol doesn't do that.
I was talking about boxes/cans for food, like say ramen, cheese it's, swiss cake rolls, green beans what have you.
The dead fetuses is a reference to the way countries have tried to use scare tactics on products to get them not to use a product. Like cigarettes. I don't want them to do that shit with food as well, but bad diets, such as added high fructose corn syrups and what not I was advocating for foods having main colors for boxes and maybe a letter on the can for colorblind people. That says to a purchaser who isn't going to read, this soup isn't as bad for me as this other soup. Or when buying snacks for their kids they know are going to sneak them, they can buy snacks/chips etc that are better or worse intentionally with little effort. Bad diets have been and will always be the #1 highest cost to a countries healthcare and leading the natural early death rates.
Example of what I don't want:

It's also worth noting that it's pretty much the only OTC painkiller you're allowed to take while pregnant, so
A. I would imagine the percentage of people who've taken it at least once while pregnant is staggeringly high, to such a point that this would be very difficult to adequately establish causation and
B. They are, once again, just screwing over pregnant people
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