I was one of the last holdouts here. I was still weakly defending her maybe a couple years ago, but definitely not anymore. I actually can’t recall the last time anyone here had anything positive to say about her.

POWER DYNAMICS

One of the best selling musicals in the US consists of POC dancing and rapping happily as slave owners.

They will act all tough and invoke “antifa” when it comes to American WWII soldiers. But when they see genocide and oppression happening in front of their eyes, and publicly supported by Israeli politicians, they will close their eyes.

It’s like how Joseph Smith and Mormonism give us a modern account of how a mass religion is formed, and still millions of people support it despite the inhumane crimes. Israel is one of the countries that show us on our phones and screens how an apartheid state is formed and run, and millions of people still support it.

gotta look at it in the context of the information people have available to them. A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice. There are few if any voices countering this in the major media channels, which almost all liberal channels and all GOP channels fully on-board. European countries have been engaged in racial violence and discrimination against Muslims, especially Arabs and North Africans, for centuries.

It's a Plato's cave thing. They're not deeply weird people like us who have access to information that counters Western propaganda. Western propaganda is their whole world. And even then, a lot of people know or suspect it's bullshit.

Because supporting oppressed people is akshually antisemitism, sweaty 💅

Because ultimately the NIMBY type doesn't care about what happens to brown people so they aren't going to sweat the fact that the US subsidizes apartheid at the cost of tens of billions of dollars per year.

Because they're being paid a lot of money not to be

You ever tried to have a career as a high profile American politician?

If Israel was an enemy of the West and not a strong ally, 90% of Americans would be supporting Palestine just on state propaganda alone.

Here let me show you the source code.

They aren't white.

zero citing example of the ''hatred and antisemitism'' in the article by the way.

They don't because the US media and politicians have long made an effort to make it so that the public equivocates support for the Palestinian people with antisemitism. So simply asking the that Palestinians not be treated like animals is antisemitic. It's sickening.

Pelosi was also in the "progressive caucus" and called for universal healthcare at some point. AOC is Pelosi, I've been saying this for years.

She wishes. It'll be a long time before anyone lets her get near a position of authority.