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I’ve noticed a pattern in my friendships that I’m struggling with, and I’d love to hear other people’s perspectives.

Whenever I suggest something I genuinely want to do with friends, the plans always get changed around — often to fit schedules or budgets — until they no longer resemble what I originally suggested. By the time we meet up, I usually don’t enjoy the activity itself, though I still value being with my friends.

This cycle tends to repeat:

I suggest something → it gets reshaped into something I don’t want → we meet up but I’m bored/miserable → then we don’t talk for 6–12 months until someone breaks the silence.

Recently, I’ve made a change: I started doing the things I enjoy on my own, without waiting for friends. For the first time, I’ve actually been happy doing what I love — but it also means I’m doing them alone.

Part of why I’m trying this is because I’ve lost friends in the past from being visibly miserable all the time when I adapted to things I didn’t actually like. Honestly, it feels like for most of my life I never really chose my friends — I just adapted to the people around me. Now, I’d really like to choose friends who genuinely align with what I enjoy.

So here’s my question: Is it wrong to want to choose my friends? How do you balance doing what makes you happy with maintaining friendships, especially if your happiness and your current friend group don’t line up?

Any thoughts, advice, or personal experiences would be really helpful.

ai disclaimerI'm going through a lot and instead of just dumping my feelings here I thought it would make more sense to have Chatgpt handle it.

Here's the source chat but if you want to cite my words I'd prefer you just cite my post instead.

Regardless I stand behind Chatgpt's output as my own words and am accountable for it as though I wrote it.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

Instead of making plans with friends, plan your activity and invite friends. If you're the defining factor, and plan your activity as it is, others may join or not.

The fewer people you involve, the more stable the plan will be as well.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Have you tried this:

-> You suggest [specific activity]

-> They suggest alteration

-> You say, "I actually really want to do [specific activity] this time, but we can do [their suggestion] next time!"

-> (1) They agree. Else (2) They insist on changing it

-> You ask why they don't want to do your suggestion

-> They hopefully have an explanation you can understand so you either feel better about changing the activity, or you go to the activity alone and do their suggestion with them another time (both are just as good!)

There's nothing rude about planning something and inviting people to the activity. If they don't want to join they can say no and you're still allowed to follow through with your plan.

Suggestions for activities to do on your own where your current friends can join if they want but you can also do alone and meet new people at the activity:

cooking class,

dancing class,

amateur theater/improv,

book club (I'm sure there are open book clubs to join at your local library, or you can ask the librarians to put up a flyer and start one... I do 1-on-1 book clubs with different friends at different times when we figure out a book we want to read. We just set a chapter goal and call once or twice a week to check in on each others progress and yap about our thoughts on the book so far. Not every activity needs to include the whole friend group every time - they're all unique persons with different interests and time availability),

join an orientation club,

volunteer somewhere (I like animal shelters, but might be more interaction with other volunteers at something aimed at humans or political/societal),

visit an orchard and pick seasonal fruit/veggies (may not be super social with strangers)

join a hiking tour, especially likely to be social if it's over several days,

go to concerts and festivals,

go to a meetup/show for motorcycles or old cars or something (initiate socialising by asking questions about, and giving people compliments on, what they brought to show off (car, MC, vinyl collection) )

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

One thing every other comment has failed to mention is that, to be comfortable around other people, you must first be comfortable with yourself fully. And, because of that, I recommend you keep doing activities by yourself, and try new things by yourself, at least at first. Discover who you actually want to be, while still respecting everyone's freedom, including your own.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

it gets reshaped into something I don’t want

It is bizarre that this happens so regularly to you. Could you go into detail, like at least 3 examples of this? What's going on?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

HUGE CONFOUNDING VARIABLE

I am diagnosed with OCD,


That being said I still assert that the changes made are sevear enough that anyone would agree that two plans are not similar:

I summarized a list of ideas for things to do in this comment but this list is a subset of a much larger more specific list (I don't want to share) so let's keep using it.

There was a time where I had no idea if I did or did not like any of these activities and wanted to find out if I did and it did not make sense to me to do these activities alone when I can ask friends to come with me because any friend can text me "why didn't you invite me I would have liked to come":

  • Luxury spas => hang out in a cold basement with candles and facemasks and phone playing
  • Guided tours => their average opinion of the concept was negative, I didn't have the energy to go do that by myself so I just didn't
  • Bar standing => we got older I thought we should try more mature things, they disagreed
  • Board games => this was the only plan that stuck, problem is I'm a goal oriented person by nature, even video games don't intrest me as much as writing code does. I used to be a senior redstone developer in minecraft
  • Movies => I don't really have much free time to discover movies I like enough that I my friends would like too, I mean I'll find movies that I like but there's no guarentee that it would be something they like. So when they want to watch a movie (usually at home) they'd default pick the most popular one and when I offer an alternative I get shot down. I watched the MCU series and I don't like it. I don't hate it but I wished I had watched other movies
  • Shopping => my friends are either broke or paying nyc rent. I guess the world sucks too much anyways and shopping as a friends thing is gone anyways
  • Museum standing => my whole body hurts if I stand for >40 mins... I timed it... after 15mins I start walking funny... after 30mins I struggle to hold my head up..... if I get dehydrated I loose the ability to banter or be funny. I slowly decay into an unpleasent person and there's nothing I can do about it

In summary:

me: "Hey let's do anything"

most of the friends I had: "Come to my apartment"

I know I'm not blowing this out of proportions. I'm alittle more sensitive then the average person and I can compensate for that but what do I do if my limits perclude me from doing things with friends.

inb4 "it sounds like your friends are lame" what are normal people such that they are not like the friends I've had??

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Apologies in advance if you are disabled, but if you can't stand for 40 minutes+ then I think the first thing to work on is your endurance. Even if it doesn't lead to more hang time with your friends, it will be rewarding for you and probably mitigate the chance of early death.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

the first thing to work on is your endurance.

Incorrect: the very first thing to investigate is the shoes that @[email protected] wears. Correct footwear is a game-changer in one's ability to stay on one's feet for hours. 40 min doesn't sound like just a standing issue, but rather that his insoles may not be contouring where his feet actually apply pressure. Some stores make custom insoles just for this purpose. There are also numerous shoe brands out there that look good but feel bad to wear. I would ask what brand of shoes he's wearing.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I bought these 3 weeks ago bc my chiropractor recommended, the Atrex insoles are also really nice. I've been walking better and maybe I can stand for >1 hr now ¯\(ツ)

Edit: meant to write "chiropractor" instead of therapist

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Interesting, thanks, so New Balance 9060 + Aetrex insoles; I may follow suit myself! By the way, you dropped this: \ (to properly type out that emoticon in markdown, you must use \\\ instead of \, since one alone will act as an "escape character" instead of a literal character to be printed).

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

but if you can’t stand for 40 minutes+ then I think the first thing to work on is your endurance

I am not disabled, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to stand for 40 mins, or do 10 pushups, or lift myself over a wall, or carry someone my exact weight a distance of idk 60m???? Why shoudn't I beable to do these things?? Ok, thank you for helping me type this

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Everything but that last one is within your reach. I weigh 180 pounds but there is no chance I could carry someone the same weight 60 meters, and I consider myself in decent shape.

I just did some work with a tool that weighs 70 pounds and i can barely lift it into a truck.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Thanks for the reference point, I weigh about the same so I guess I don't have to be able to carry a person

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

what are normal people such that they are not like the friends I've had??

It does not matter if you have OCD or not; these people seem to consistently not care about your suggestions. If I tell my friends, "I really wanna play Space Base," then we make it happen.

These people sound like the type who would not check up on you if you just suddenly stopped responding, and those are not friends. I would try to make new friends elsewhere... Sorry!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Make friends with people who also love what you love?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I've learned that it's important to spent time on my interests, and it's important to spend time on my friends, but trying to do both at once sometimes cheapens both.

I'd suggest scheduling just chill hangouts with friends, and keep doing the wild things they can't afford by yourself.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

No, it isn't wrong to want to choose your friends based on your hobbies. It's healthy. Sure, you will need some flexibility. It can't all be your way all the time. But generally you want friends who enjoy the same activities and "things" you do. You want enough similarities to have stuff to do and talk about, but enough differences that you aren't just repeating the same things to each other.

And as with most relationships, a small handful of great ones can sustain us for longer and more deeply than a deluge of shallow and circumstantial ones.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks, this story inspired me to pay more attention to that for today’s plans.

Originally I agreed to overly complex logistics for a family activity because I know my ex doesn’t like to drive. But she agreed to simpler logistics that would save an hour on the schedule and save everyone else a lot of driving at the expense of her driving. This will be so much more enjoyable spending a little more time with my kid and not be in a rush to get everything done.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah this is why I hate making plans, no one else puts in any effort into finding things to do or they don't want to pay for anything and then every outing becomes sitting in a bar shooting shit or going to a movie that either I don't care for or the others don't, I usually just do things by myself these days and I enjoy it a lot more, maybe someday I'll find friends with common interest I actually want to hang out with, for now I've become very comfortable being by myself

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

This is very normal. Especially if you don't have kids and some of your friends do, or if your work schedule isn't a standard 9 to 5 and all your friends are on that. Once your group gets bigger than 5 or 6 people, coordinating schedules is basically impossible.

Don't take it personally. It's likely nothing about trying to change your plans, but rather just trying to find some middle ground in the plans that works for everyone. Don't set your own expectations so high that anything that isn't perfect leaves you miserable.

You have 2 options: 1) As mentioned, just say at this time in this day you're doing something and anyone who wants to join is free to do so, knowing full well that some people will feel FOMO. 2) Try and do something and be fine with the plans changing to get the larger group, because that's the point, not the activity itself.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I am mostly unsure about what you consider friendship. From your description, they are a (big?) group of people that you meet once or twice a year and when you do you don’t enjoy it. At most, I would consider them acquaintances.

Try looking for connections in groups that tailor towards what you like. Join meetups and such on topics of your interest and try to scout for interesting people in there.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

they are a (big?) 2 group of people that you meet once or twice a year and when you do you don’t enjoy it

That is what it has been recently. Prior to that it has been gigantic groups of which I belonged to a subset of 2~6 outcasted people who usually represented 90% of my awareness of the rest of the group.

I know why I was an outcast for most of my youth, I've fixed that.

At most, I would consider them acquaintances.

That's the thing, those two were the people who I feel like I had the deepest connection with ever. They were there when most of my support circle went away and I think I even had a crush on one of them. But the thing is that I realized that my relationship with the one I had a crush on was completely my own projection who I objectivly know very little about and the other one was a semi transactional relationship. Was any of it ever real?

Join meetups

The meetup app has gone downhill hard in NYC, I've just about given up on it

such on topics of your interest and try to scout for interesting people in there

:+1:

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

they are a ~~(big?)~~ 2 group of people that you meet once or twice a year and when you do you don’t enjoy it

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't have any shared hobbies or interests with any of my friends (and very few with my wife!) besides going somewhere, putting things in our mouths and yapping the day/night away. Idk, it never felt weird to me, but I might just be a bit of a boring guy since I mostly like reading, talking (IRL and online) and playing single-player videogames so it all fits for me?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

going somewhere, putting things in our mouths and yapping the day/night away

I fucking hate that this is all that I have. I am so dry and 2 dimentional, I'm litterally just [ Gay, Linux ]. I'm searching so fucking hard for more

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

It would be helpful to have an example (or more) of what you suggested and what ended up happening.

Other people have good advice, but I'm wondering if you are planning things which are a bit niche, or if your friends have strange interests, or if you find it difficult to enjoy normal activities.

There are lots of activities that people do that I'm not that interested in, but I'll go along anyway and still have a good time - it wouldn't be my first choice, and I'd be annoyed if my plans always got taken over in favour of them, but I wouldn't be "visibly miserable" doing something like this: for example, one time we ended up going out for "electric shuffle" (just shuffleboard which is electronically scored) which is pretty expensive for what it is, but whatever. The main attraction is being with friends and interacting, anyway.

I remember one time I planned a cycling trip and everyone I invited ended up doing something else (I can't remember what, but I remember distinctly it being something they could have done on any weekend). I was a bit miserable at that but still had a good time on my own.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Listed some of it in this comment: https://programming.dev/post/37296315/19332878

but I’m wondering if you are planning things which are a bit niche

There was variaty. I strived to recommend varying levels of specificity in the plans, anywhere from requiring tickets to just going to the park bc I'm sick of being inside.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I started doing things that I want, and if others join me, thats awesome, if noone comes along I'll just go alone. I've met a lot of new people this way and it has worked wonders on my social skills.

It allows me to get a lot of new experiences without the hassle of having some miserable being tagging along. And it gives me interesting stories to tell when I meet up with my long time friends. Some of them even want to join some of my adventures.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I started doing things that I want, and if others join me, thats awesome, if noone comes along I’ll just go alone.

Nobody knows what I do.. that means I should post it on instagram but how does that help when I posted something in the past? I could post it in advance?? That feels rude!!!.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Hello, friend.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I find friends who enjoy the things I like to do??

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

How tho... like if you leave a comment like this then it's obvious to you therefore you know then what is it that you know that you can do to "find friends who enjoy the things I like to do"?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

You go to things based around what you enjoy. Conventions, shows, events, etc. ideally things where you actually get to socialize with other people

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Is inviting strangers an option, someone who is more into your (version of the) activity?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Is inviting strangers an option

How?

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