Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region

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[–] 243 points 1 year ago (34 children)

Of course he was targeted. The shooter is likely dead by now. They probably called it Operation Watch Charlie or something.

He was killed as a distraction.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Possible... but he had a lot of enemies, and there's more and more people with literally nothing left to lose in the USA every single day, so it was probably inevitable on a long enough timescale.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He was killed as a distraction.

    Susie Wiles: "Sir, they leaked the live copy of your letter to Jeffery Epstein. It's having absolutely no effect on your public approval and Congress seems incapable of doing anything to stall your accrual of executive level powers. What should we do?"

    Trump: "I'm a great president, Susie. Some say I'm the greatest president who ever lived. That's why I make the big decisions. And I've been thinking about this for a long time. We've got to save the nation. We need to get stronger. Some people are saying we're not strong, but they're wrong, Susie. This is the best this country has ever been and it's only going to get better. Are you ready to make this country better, Susie? I don't think you're ready... you're nodding. Does that mean you're ready?"

    Susie Wiles: "Yes, Mr. President. Anything for you, Mr. President."

    Trump: "Go talk to Pete Hegseth. He'll tell you what to do."

    Pete Hegseth, drunkenly: "Susthy, ith so good to thee you again. But I lothe to wath you leaf."

    Susie Wiles: "The President said you would know what to do."

    Pete: "Yeah, uh... kill the big head guy. You know the one. With the tiny face."

    Susie: "Charlie Kirk"

    Pete: loud burping noise

    Susie: "Right away, Mr. War Fighter Commander Pete."

    sounds of gunfire

    Susie Wiles: "Mr. President! In a strange turn of fate, it appears someone else shot Charlie Kirk before we could get to him."

    Trump: "All according to plan, Susie. I'm the smartest man who ever lived. You can thank me with a kiss. Get over here, sweetie."

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Will this be excuse to send military to Utah or is he planning something else?

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    [–] 155 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Next up: FBI confirms a firearm was used in the shooting.

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    [–] 124 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    TIL that I could be in the FBI. Great detective work guys.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    When you realize how low the bar is, you should never have imposter syndrome again. At this point the remaining federal government is only composed of Trump loyalists.

    The claims of meritocracy replacing DEI are beyond ridiculous. How many campus shooters have ever just walked away like this? This was a high profile assassination. The fact that they still have not found the guy that did this, should let you know they either let this happen or they're now just completely incompetent. I'm leaning towards the former, but the latter is definitely a possibility.

    Anybody can just be handed power and control under this administration, no matter how unqualified. That is how the right has been operating for the last 25+ years. Literally that is why people keep joining this grift. If you're willing to pledge loyalty, take advantage of people, and help destroy your own country, you can make bank.

    The people that fund the right refuse to let a penny of their money go towards taxes to pay for public services, but they will literally throw absurd amounts of money at anything that promotes their agenda. They would pay somebody to publicly set their own money on fire, if it meant that person could convince a handful of people to keep voting Republican.

    The really sad thing is, there is some truth to the left (or at least the Democratic party) becoming so comfortable being cemented in established norms and institutions, that they have managed to become exclusionary and made a big chunk of the U.S. feel alienated.

    Like a lot of the institutions on the left have become what the Republican party was when the new right was first forming. Everybody "new" actually has connections to somebody already established in the party. They're usually somebody's kid, relative, or family friend, or they attended the same Ivy League and were recruited by somebody in the establishment.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do you mean to say it wasn't a random bullet?

    I never would have reached that conclusion on my own, thank you FBI, you are truly the world's greatest detectives. Thinking outside the box!

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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Crazy times to live when you see the FBI go from Darth Vader to Dark Helmet.

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    [–] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

    Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn't a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn't look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that? I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away and the person that took the shot had the ability to make a sniper shot like that, (some form of police/military training.) Then, before he's been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!" Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hadn't officially been declared dead, why was Trump saying that Charlie Kirk was dead before it was official. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I'm calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump's reischtag fire. Buckle up. Edit: NYT is saying the shot came from a roof via a high power bolt action rifle, because the gun was found in the woods near the campus. Authorities also claim to have video footage of the suspect going to the roof of a campus building.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That's WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army makes you use iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that's not even pushing it.

    They didn't have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit the general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.

    There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.

    If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass (heart) the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.

    In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with "tin foil hat time." Even if that's the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    false flag operation

    Claims like this give both too much credit for action and too little to strategy.

    • there’s no reason to believe this specific action was a false flag operation when in the current environment it’s simple to believe a radicalized individual
    • isn’t that one of the benefits of the continuous hatred, outrage, divisiveness, chaos? There’s always going to be stuff like this happening, so you always have an event to capitalize on without the risk of doing it yourself
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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,

    There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
    I don't think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It's way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.

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    [–] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't think he was shot, I think his neck just did that

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    [–] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No this wasn't a school shooting! This was targeted. The horror!

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Now Trump is going to send the army to guard the streets of buttfuck nowhere Utah from all this violence, right? Right?

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I think it was an accident. He dropped the rifle and it accidentally shot Kirk

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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    Honestly, it would be some pretty funny shit if he got hit by a random bullet someone shot into the air from like a mile or so.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The blood shooting from Mr. Kirks neck alone was not good enough evidence to determine if the shooter hit what he was targeting. Great work FBI. At this rate, you'll soon be able to confirm the shooter used a gun.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    FAR too many "coincidences" for this to not have been an inside job.

    The weird pre-prepared AI video of Trump announcing his death

    The plane randomly arriving and likely picking the shooter up

    The shooter being clearly an expert marksman

    The right all coordinating to declare a civil war within seconds of it happening

    The FBI conveniently not being able to find the guy

    Not 1 but 2 plants in the crowd to distract authorities

    Etc etc etc.

    Release the Epstein files you orange pedophile piece of shit.

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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Nah, stray bullet bro.

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    No fucking shit he was targeted. That is how you aim a gun.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Wild, I was pretty sure his neck just did that.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    What was the theory before? Crime of passion, gun and run?

    Like he just had a "say what again" moment to that bullshit Kirk was saying on stage?

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Luigi was caught in like 24 hours (edit: as pointed out, more like 5 days) with a manifesto, confession, gun, bodycam footage, and a gps tracker that proves he done it.

    This guy is a ghost.

    BUT THEYVE SECURED THE WOODS GUISE!

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  • [–] [S] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Luigi was missing for a few days, after executing a masterful getaway in the middle of the day in the largest city in the country. Then just randomly shows up at a McDonalds with everything needed to convict him packaged together in a bag. Definitely not unusual at all. Nothing to see here folks! The system works and the police are master investigators. It's impossible to get away with a crime like this!

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    It is amazing that Trump sacrifices his personal Joseph Göbbels just to distract from the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm no expert, but if you hit someone, it means you targeted them.

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    [+] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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    Can we stark calling the shooter Mario? I wish he had a better escape plan like a janitor outfit and beard

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Geniuses ... guy who called for violence against people, wanted to deny people's rights, making fun of their misery, downplaying deaths of other people, publicly mocking others in distress and making millions of dollars off it all ... and doing it all on a daily basis on national platforms with a following of millions .... FBI suddenly thinks that people might want to kill this person.

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    I'm getting shit for not crying my face off meanwhile the FBI making dad jokes!?

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