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“Not only do I not know the situation, but I REFUSE to learn. Anyway the way these people are doing it is bad cause 
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Every. Fucking. Time.
Hamas enjoyed popular support for precisely those reasons in the early 2000s. Many Palestinians viewed them as extremist, but capable at building things like school systems and mutual aid societies without the baggage and corruption of the PLO/FataH.
Edit: someone posted more detail here
Two million people on an area half the size of Hamburg with no possibility of trading goods or services. Good luck building anything under such circumstances.
Israel does not allow building materials to be imported into Gaza, either.
But Hamas is famous for their social services they provide in Gaza? I guess this lib didn't mean that kind of civil society, he means they should open a small business or some shit. Regardless why bother building anything when Israel will just blow it up once you are done?
Ukraine flag
1776
Opinion disregarded
Only 
s are allowed to use violence. have to hug it out.
I think you're confusing which country you're talking about, let me fix this for you:
Imagine if Zelenskyy government used their power to create a thriving Ukrainian civil society, fight corruption, or benefit people to show the path to a successful Ukrainian state
Instead we get kidnappings and throats getting slit on film
Zelenskyy achieves nothing but revenge fantasies
"Revenge fantasies"
Revenge for WHAT exactly? Doesn't someone have to be wronged in the first place in order for them to seek revenge? What was the wrongful act against them, Zionist?
99% of people with Ukraine flags in their display name or PFP have had some form of fantasy about what will happen to Russian soldiers or Russia as a whole.
Time isn't a thing to these people. They only see the immediate story put in front of them and think they're nuanced enough to not see bias. Without questioning why this is making the news in more places than the the events leading up to this.
To them, context is 'whataboutism.'
whataboutism 
create a thriving Palestinian civil society
with what resources exactly? Israel literally just steals Palestinian tax money, what the fuck are the Palestinians supposed to build their society with, hopes and dreams?
Hey occupied country 
Ever thought about killing them with kindness?
Liberals: "Palestinians should fight Israel non-violently"
Palestinians do BDS
Liberals: "No that's evil"
Liberals: "Palestinians should ~~fight Israel~~ die silently and violently"
There, that's what they actually believe behind their coward masks
How do they get this power exactly?
By being wiped out by Israel I guess
sure they may all be dead, but the moral victory is theirs! rejoice, corpses, the western left is in your corner once more!
They spent decades trying every possible way to get a deal or some kind of accommodation that would let them live and build something, and all it ever got them was more settlers and more death. Shit, it wasn't that long ago that they tried a Ghandi style peaceful march to the ghetto walls , the Israeli's shot 8000+ of them and the world hardly noticed.
I took a long time to get to this point. Conditions have to become completely intolerable before the average person decides that a fight against jets, drone swarms and automated machine guns is preferable to life under occupation.
Israel has been tightening the screws on palestine for years. Less and less access to medical care, food, and even jobs.
imagine if hamas built schools and hospitals and ran apartments for gazans so they can be housed and then imagine if isreal bombed and sabotaged these things
its easy because you dont have to imagine
This guy is such a fucking hack
yeah fuck this person's shit. i'm choosing not to seek out the fucked up images/videos but war is hell and modern media/internet exposes things that were previously kept sanitized.
when a Palestinian apartment building is vaporized full of women and children we just don't get to see it go down
when a Palestinian apartment building is vaporized full of women and children we just don't get to see it go down
Even if it were broadcast somehow, liberals would find an excuse
yeah true. or just swallow whatever propaganda is spoon fed to them about how it was a hamas hideout or those women and children were making bombs or some shit
Oh look, it's that youtuber twat that just got back from doing war tourism in Ukraine. What a shock he has a fucking garbage take on this.
create a thriving Palestinian civil society, fight corruption, or benefit people to show the path of a successful Palestinian state
Yeah they'd have a great and productive time of that with israel actively colonizing and killing them the whole time.
The shitlib pseudo-leftists of north america and europe can only support marginalized and downtrodden people on the condition that they remain marginalized and downtrodden.
When the world's underdogs actually show teeth, when they snarl, and especially when they bite, these fucking worms feel that existential fear shoot up their ass, and they remember who they really identify with: the colonizer, the settler, the racist oppressor, the side that deserves to lose everything and die violently.
I looked at his channel and it’s literally just Reddit tier feel good stories about anonymous soldiers doing epic tactical operations and da tankie
omg so true bestie although I wonder if there are any inherent impediments to creating a thriving Palestinian society when living under constant occupation and regular blockade 
"Some people would struggle to build economic prosperity while under economic blockade, but not me. I'm just built different."
Ask them why Ukraine didn't use this approach.
Imagine if Hamas used their power...
Imagine pretending to not know how power works, but advocate the opposite argument for Israel.
I treat anyone with 1776 in their handle as if they had 1488 instead and that's seldom led me astray.
nafo has a special place in hell
"The status quo is good, even when it means some people become victims of genocide, thats a necessary evil."
"The world is also a just one where the power of friendship and the free market can get you anywhere no matter what."
"Ergo, when the victims of genocide fight back, they are always worse than their oppressors because they shouldve just economically developed bro."
- DYELan (Legohead) burns
Technically the removal of Israel from existence is a prerequisite for Palestinian "civil society" to thrive. Its like doing a cancer treatment program without removing the tumor via chemo. These neoliberals just want a genocide of browns/poors and do mental gymnastics this way and that to conceal their hideous intentions. Evil, brainless pieces of shit, the lot of them.
Remember seeing some videos from this dweeb a few years ago when he was basically a nobody but had some fans on /r/breadtube that posted him. His arguments were shit then and they're somehow even worse now. Pretty sure he was in Ukraine doing "reporting" at some point as well getting led around like a tourist.
This is the dipshit that 
and audience love and uncritically believe
Claims Hamas achieve nothing but revenge fantasies, has Ukraine flag in bio
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