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[–] 261 points 2 years ago (6 children)

These posters make me want to organize.

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    [–] 227 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Never forget: If a company doesn't want you to have it, it's probably a good for you.

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    [–] 172 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    My union got me more money in a single year than I will pay in dues for my entire career in at least 3 separate years in the 6 years I've been working for my employer.

    I get leave each year that is slightly more than 20 percent of my work hours.

    Unions are amazing for workers.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    My family is from West Virginia. They literally had battles for unions. Unions saved the state for a little while. Everyone I know there is also very anti-union. I don't know how. This is why history is important, but they won't teach you these parts of history in school.

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  • [–] 145 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The fact they are putting these up should let you know it's something you want to join

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Agree. I don't understand why Amazon thinks this will help, like "hello people, Union is a thing that we're really afraid of, haven't you heard?"

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Because they want to plant that seed of doubt and fear.

    Might not work for you, but unfortunately there are a lot of naive or insecure folks out there.

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  • [–] 137 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Don't trust unions - they can't guarantee you benefits. Trust us, we guarantee the most exploitative conditions as long as you don't organise!

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    [–] 115 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    How is this even legal? As a European I can't understand how anyone falls for this blatant anti-union propaganda. They are obviously beneficial to workers (that's literally why they exist) and I've never had to run anything by my union unless I believe I'm being unfairly treated by my employer.

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    [–] 99 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Obligatory, "if a company is trying to convince you you don't need a union, you need a union".

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    [–] 90 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    "Oh no, I'll have to go through someone who actually has my interests at heart and not my shitty manager! Damn unions!"

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And no, you don't have to go through the union instead of your supervisor/manager. In my union job, they'd send a witness/advocate along with someone if they had an issue where a manager was involved.

    The union was corrupt, but despite that it was still the best factory job I've worked in (ok another one was also not bad but that was mostly because no one really gave a fuck about the stupid shit there and everyone just did their jobs without fucking with each other). The pay was high enough that when I was looking for something better, I realized a certification I had started wasn't going to mean more money, just different work for similar money.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yea. I had a shop steward sit in on all my meetings with management. They represent the union, it's influence, and it's contract. They make sure everyone is playing by the rules and management doesn't take advantage of an employee that doesn't know labor laws, policies and procedures, their work contract, or the union contract.

    It wasn't a requirement for meeting with management, but it was something a manager could not refuse if requested by the employee. Any meeting with management would be delayed until a shop steward was available.

    I was a strong advocate for every employee to have one with all meetings with management.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's not a guarantee they have your interests and heart, but your odds are a lot better than your supervisor having your interests and heart.

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    [–] 83 points 2 years ago

    The amount of effort your company goes into dissuading you from starting a Union, is proportional to how much you need one.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Reasons not to join union:

    1. No guarantee that they will help at all mitigating our blatant exploitation of the workforce

    2. Uh, it is un-american.

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    [–] 67 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The creepy part is how you're supposed to turn in anyone who discusses unions or unionizing.

    They literally tell you "if you hear someone discussing something against the company's best interests, say something!"

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Straight lies. How can you tell someone that unions cannot guarantee anything?

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago

    If conditions were left up to corporations children would still be working, we'd be doing 12 hours a day 6 days a week and Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol would be an autobiography on the current bestsellers list.

    Corporations are interested in making profits, paying shareholders, managers getting their bonuses, workers are don't make the top 10.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Never forget when Amazon called the guy who organized a strike "inarticulate" even though his speaking talent was literal poetry.

    For those of you unaware, that was a dogwhistle. The strike leader was black.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    "Have to go through a union instead of a supervisor or manager."

    Like anyone wants to go to an Amazon manager.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I thought this was against the law?

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I did a seasonal stint at a Target Warehouse recently, and while there wasn't anything blatantly antiunion, the effort is absolutely there. There is alot of talk about open door policies, open communication lines between management and workers, and a culture of "trust". My emphasis, their words. They also have a standing policy that, out of context, is very odd. Knowing what I do about antiunion measures, it's very blatant. They have a fiercely reinforced policy that there is to be no distribution of any papers or solicitation of any kind during work hours or on Target property. They attempt to rationale it with an example of people "asking for kids fundraising orders or public funding websites". Personally I've never known those to be even a mild distraction at any workplace.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    hmmm, maybe cover up that qr code with this one...? 🤭

    gotta be plenty of label printers around the warehouse this would fit on 💪

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    im not american so these anti union things are always wild to see, like do these actually work?

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Dues deducted from your pay.. yes true… oh no it’s a whopping $20-50 a pay (spitballing a range.. I pay $44.49 per pay)

    No guarantees on pay, benefits or work rules even though it’s extremely unlikely you won’t get better pay, benefits or work rules using that line of thinking the company doesn’t guarantee that either lol

    Typically must go through union, not supervisor or manager.. okay for what? I got to my supervisors and managers every day for stuff and even if that is the case so fucking what supervisors and managers don’t have my best interest in mind.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Piss on anti-union propoganda

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