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So far Lemmy is vibing. Everyone here is excited and optimistic and willing to put up with a few rough spots to be part of something.

When the Eternal September comes, which it will, how does a Lemmy instance deal with bad actors?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lol at creating a new open source platform with free speech and immediately asking how to eliminate it.

In the older, better days of the internet, "assholes" were just a part of it.

Learn to deal

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In the older, better days, we used kill files, and our choice of platform was eventually overrun by spam.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No, assholes need to learn to behave within the context of the instance / community they are posting to or get downvoted / moderated. Ideally they go away to their own instance where they can be assholes to each other and be defederated.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

there are multiple ways evil can behave on lemmy:

trolling

  • trolling, it is annoying, if 25% of all posts are troll posts, the site can be annoying to use.
    • content voting systems can mitigate this tho, but bots will eventually find a way to game this?
  • the difference between trolling and spamming (imo): trolls type in their message with a physical keyboard. Spammers use bots to automate trolling

(Bot) Spamming / automated troll farms

  • spamming, creates huge load on storage capacity of the server owner, not good if you host for ~~free~~
    • spam can be hard to detect in the age of chatgpt LLMs in general, because normal spam would be detected by how random it is. for example

adfjakjdfkl would be easily detected as spam

  • spamming huge amounts of text is still better than spammers creating huge amounts of video and photographs
  • proof of work algorithms can mitigate this issue somewhat, tho this also makes performance worse for everyone

any other thoughts on proof of work, or how evil doers can behave on social media sides?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I read that as "...asshole migration plan". ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Me too, but I didn't realize it wasn't until I read your comment, kinda works either way as a title

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be nice if everyone were to be excellent to each other but that's just me talking with rose tinted glasses and a belly full of pizza.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We'll live, we'll see. Meta is showing its interest in mastodon, so we have a reason to worry. But I think, lemmy will change according to the situation, when situation will be present, not before it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you don't know do you

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

thine asses shalt be downvoteth

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully all the assholes are attracted to one shitty instance and then that instance gets defederated.

Srsly tho, the assholes are kind of apart of the whole experience, but I think the people being drawn over here right now are not really the asshole type, at least so far.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Typically assholes like to be in an echochamber and won't stay in a community where they get downvoted and reported. Just downvote asshole posts and they'll naturally leave to an instance that allows assholes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in mastodon there were instances only to assholes, and other instances blocked them as a whole, so i think it's gonna be easier

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just waiting for the lemmy.circlejerk to pop up lol

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