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Stephen Gary Wozniak (/ˈwɒzniæk/; born August 11, 1950), also known by his nickname Woz, is an American technology entrepreneur, electrical engineer, computer programmer, and inventor. In 1976, he co-founded Apple Computer with his early business partner Steve Jobs. Through his work at Apple in the 1970s and 1980s, he is widely recognized as one of the most prominent pioneers of the personal computer revolution.

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of people wealthy enough to be comfortable and safe , and are grateful for it. But, have no desire to control others or amass power. Normal people.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

there are also plenty of poor/middle class people who are consumed by their desire to control other and amass power.

my local community garden was one such place. gotta love people who want to power trip over garden plots. people were legit bitter about the 'best' plots, and punishing people with 'bad' plots. it was insane. I got shit for wanting to grow veggies and not flowers. lol

[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

I don't feel strongly positively or negatively about Woz, but I agree with his message that, to the extent that life is about collecting anything, it is about collecting happiness points rather than money points. (Having said that, money does a very good job of taking away obstacles that get in the way of happiness.)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Everytime i check there is a level where more money goes from a significant factor in happyness to a small one - that level is around the poverty line, sometimes less depending on the study.

[-] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

Yes but if he kept the money and just invested it, he'd have many millions more to give away, indefinitely.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

And if he kept THAT money, he'd be able to invest even more and have even more to give away! But wait, if he kept THAT money...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

And then he realizes he's near the top of the high score board. Just a bit more money and he'll definitely start giving it away...

[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Apple was falling apart and on the verge of bankruptcy it was down to like 10 CENTS a share in late 1997.

The only reason they exist is because Bill Gates gave Steve Jobs a ton of money to stay afloat so long as he promised to make some charitable contributions to give back if the company got its act together (Apple under Steve Jobs continued to be one of the least charitable companies on the S&P 500, completely breaking his promise) and they got lucky cornering the market with the iPod.

So Bill Gates and the iPod are the only reason Apple has a stock value. If things had gone just slightly different Mr.Wozniak would have had $0 if he'd of kept the stock. Also, the stock value dropped like another 40% in 1985 after he sold off his shares before starting to rebound back up and just floating around 25 to 35 cents a share for over a decade.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Bill Gates didn't do that out of the kindness of his heart. He did it because the feds had Microsoft on their sights in an antitrust case and Microsoft needed someone to point at to say "See? We have competition"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That monopoly issue and fines had come and gone years before this.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nonsense. They didn't reach a judgement until 5 years after Microsoft's 1997 investment in Apple, and it was appealed until 2007

https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-v-microsoft-corporation-browser-and-middleware#district

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That was the 2nd time they got in trouble. Not the first where the government was poking around on them for OS monopoly practices. You're talking about what happened around 1998 and it was mostly for using its size to crush Netscape as a web browser by bundling their own Microsoft browser for free, along with some other software bundled things. That suit had nothing to do with being a monopoly over operating systems or PC hardware. In other words, it had nothing to do with anything Apple was involved with at the time.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

So he's trying to be the nice guy, not at all a 'poor' looser who "only" have $10M... What a stupid world we live in.

Let that guy be IMO, but he doesn't deserve a saint image just because he didn't get insanely rich.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Well thats just a bad economic decision.

In an unregulated market, smiles and frowns have no exchangable values.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Especially since they can turn on a whim, the market on frowns could collapse at the slightest mention of turning that frown upside down.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

My secret is that I have found that one will rarely lose money shorting smiles.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sup Broskis, it's ya boi ButtFart Reacts, here to announce an exciting new project I've been working on with BitConnect: FrownCoin! Get your frown on...to the moon!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

He's donated to a lot of small computer museums. Great guy

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

you know, i was literally killing myself in the rat race when I figured this out. now i'm a musician and it's pretty neat.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Similar situation here. I am still in my primary career as an engineer, but working on stuff that I enjoy and definitely not scheming to get into management or marketing or whatever it is that linkedin lunatics think an engineer with a business degree is supposed to do. (I had an employer with a really good tuition reimbursement policy so in the 2010s I got my engineering masters early in the decade then also an MBA several years after)

At home all my mental energy and learning efforts go into other things though. Hobbies and family -- things that I have consciously chosen to prioritize because they have positive effect on my health, both mental and physical. After I work on C and C++ code all day I come home and literally dig in the dirt, build physical structures out of wood, and tend to my animals.

The variety, having to-dos that you actually look forward to, the exercise, the fresh air, engaging all the senses, and just being outside remembering that we are part of the ecosystem and not separate from it... these are all incredibly worthwhile things.

They are worthwhile enough that I will spend money or go through some up-front discomfort to make it happen. For example, I have never liked being hot and I have medical issues that make me more sensitive to the heat more prone to skin cancer. I do 90% of my woodworking outside and we have been in a dry heat wave. So on top of things like sunscreen, a wide-brimmed hat that makes me look like a farmer, keeping the house as cold as possible for when I take breaks, or just spraying cold hose water on myself, I also bought myself a ridiculous 24"/~60cm commercial-use fan. It has a brushless motor and is continuously variable speed. At max power it uses 130 watts and sounds like a helicopter. :D

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

old farmers trick we use to stay cool is to get the left forearm (is closer to heart, don"t know if that really makes a difference) wet with cool water, let it be your radiator. keeps your clothes dry but you cool off fast.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder if it's one of those things that works on any limb but the focus on the left arm adds some placebo effect on top.

For me, I am luckily always wearing rugged waterproof shoes so I've found that running cold water down your shins is super effective. It feels like I can feel the cooled blood flowing up my body, but I don't know if it's that or more of a reflex like goose bumps.

The back of the neck and base of skull are good too. And holding a really cold drink can on the side of the neck, like cooling the flow right into the brain where I need it (neuro issues exacerbated by heat) can be nice.

I'm going to have to try the left arm only within about an hour though. :D

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Diversifying your investments is always good. Sure he could have made more - we know that in hindsight. I have known a few people over the years who have invsted too much into something that went bankrupt.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Now we’re pretending like hes not richer than god and he’s an every man?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

i don’t think anyone is pretending he’s not rich. but in the 80s he was extremely and unusually generous giving out his stock to workers in the company, and he was asked about the profit he ‘lost’

the best trillionaire is the trillionaire that due to his convictions alone is not a trillionaire. even with that in mind he is still rich.

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