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[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

Child trafficking with some eugenics sprinkled in.

Really fucked up, and this is what we know during the war, imagine what could come out after.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be shocked if some of the older kids that didn't get shot as "enemy combatants" got pressed back into service for Russia at the end of a gun.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

It’s not at all suspicious that the two accounts defending RU here are brand new…

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Please report that shit in the future so I can remove it sooner.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

New Russian troll farm activity, probably linked to Puta "peace" meeting with Trump.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Maybe it's in preparation for Putin's meeting with Trump.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

kyivindependent

Aw yeah TOTALLY believable and DEFINITELY no incentive whatsoever to publish fearmongering articles for the US proxy war 🤣

[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Tankies don't get opinions. Shit off back to Putin's propaganda instances fuckwit.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

You want to wait for the Russia Today version?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Isn't that the website run by the full-throat zionist chiropractor? Thnx but no thnx, thats abso on the "Don't trust" list

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Bwahahaha you're one to talk. Please if other people read this look at the sources theyve posted.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Another brain dead tankie.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Brought to you by the unbiased news source - kyivindependent.com

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago

"Brought to you by the unbiased news source – kyivindependent.com"

This kind of snarky dismissal is a textbook example of the genetic fallacy. It's rejecting an argument or claim solely because of its source, rather than engaging with the content, the evidence, or the reasoning behind it.

Yes, The Kyiv Independent is Ukrainian, and yes, it likely carries national bias. Just like literally every national outlet does during wartime. That doesn’t automatically invalidate every fact it reports, especially when those facts are supported by third-party evidence and international bodies.

In this article, for example, the claim about the child adoption "catalog" is backed by:

Screenshots from Russian occupation websites, figures from Save Ukraine ( a long-standing NGO) and references to internationally verified abductions; numbers confirmed by Ukraine's ombudsman, the ICC’s arrest warrants, and other human rights organizations)

So even if you don’t like the outlet, you're still responsible for engaging with the facts, not just rolling your eyes and calling it propaganda.

Dismissing credible, corroborated claims with a one-liner is lazy and cowardly. If you're going to talk about war crimes and mass abductions, do better than a meme-level deflection and actually engage the facts. This isn’t some Internet drama without consequences; it’s the systematic erasure of children.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Dismissing Russian media reports occurs way more commonly but no one says anything then.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Russian media rarely if ever cites their sources, and when they do they are dubious at best

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

and mostly because putin control what russian media puts out as well.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Ah, so now we're on to classic whataboutism fallacy. Pointing out that Russian media gets dismissed (often for good reason) doesn’t make it logically valid to dismiss any report just because of its origin.

If you think The Kyiv Independent is questionable, that's fine! Interrogate the claims. Ask:

What are the sources?

Are they independent?

Can they be verified elsewhere?

The same rules apply to Russian media and every other claim.

But using other fallacies doesn't justify your response. Saying “Well, people dismiss Russian media too” isn’t a defense. It’s just avoiding the argument again.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

What-aboutism. I love how generic and useless you're being.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Russian sources arnt legitimate, and are filled with propaganda, so its generally ignored. it would be deleted on reddit as it would here as well.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Your point is?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's another older source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-ukraine-children-russia-war-kidnapping-evidence-b2717730.html

Children from Eastern Europe have been considered prime trafficking victims for several decades now. They are usually white and easily accessible, often sitting out on the streets.

Here's a documentary about Romanian street children: https://youtu.be/HDiIrdzFGCY

Here's Robert Maxwell trafficking them: https://www.nli.org.il/he/images/%20nnl_archive_al990040300950205171/NLI#$FL45875197

There is substantial evidence that torture, snuff, rape, bestiality, and CSAM materials coming from Russia are made by Putin's request and put out by his request to accrue blackmail on the people who view them online. A large part of what many world leaders want today are just straight up children and babies as a commodity.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Always nice to pop into these posts to see what (new) users I need to add to the block list.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

they used filtration camps to obfuscate the kidnapped children so its harder to track them down, they give them false identity and put them up for adoption, or in an orphanage.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
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