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People love this "gotcha", but really it just shows how terrible cars are on a fundamental level.

The solution isn't electric cars, it's electric micromobility and public transport.

Gasoline cars produce, on average, about ten times more lifetime pollution compared to manufacturing pollution. So even if electric car manufacturing pollutes a bit more, it more than makes up for it over its lifetime of driving.

Your other claim that batteries can't be recycled is false. And that recycling pollutes more. More than 90% of battery materials by mass can and do get recycled - and the expectation is to reach 98+%. Recycling process is expected to produce less pollution and be cheaper than mining the equivalent amounts of material.

You don't know. You said it.

Electric cars are certainly better. The climate crisis is extremely bad. A significant percentage of the Earth will no longer be livable without AC within decades. Much of our ecosystems depended on a temperature range we won't see again within our lifetimes. It's much more likely to be our great filter than batteries are.

Someday we'll envy how popular the Baby Boomers were in their old age. They didn't understand, we do. We should be rioting, everywhere.

(I understand busses and trains are better still, I'm just addressing their not knowing which is worse)

The ~90,000 shipping freighters that operate daily use twice the amount of fuel than all ~2.5 billion personal vehicles that are on the roads globally. We're electrifying the wrong shit.

I don't know either, but thinking about all the pollution it takes to refine and transport the fuel, I still think electric cars pollute much less.