Why the fuck is everyone acting like this is new information. Did people forget Edward Snowden. US government loves spying on and will do whatever it takes to spy on you harder. Your so called rights are a sham. The US government will ignore them when it's convenient for them
this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2023
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Can't the government be taken to court for breaking the constitution?
by who, though? Itself?
There have been <private person> v. United States lawsuits before iirc
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/supreme-court-landmarks
Part of it is new, namely them buying the info they might not be able to collect themselves, or, more likely, laziness.
It provides yet another insight in the blatance of it all. Could we have assumed as much? Probably, but it is important slithers of truth keep surfacing.
My favorite are the people that willingly voted for or support the Patriot Act get mad about the "Twitter Files" and other govt overreach...
Like no shit you guys invited this type of stuff in.
Back home it was sometimes speculated that the invasiveness of background checks was to gather dirt on the subjects to hold over them, just in case.
As for federation/decentralization/whatever, it doesn't solve the mass collection issues at all. We already know how and where they do it (contracting with providers of all kinds and monitoring at IXPs). Unless we get off the Net entirely, there's no way to stop it.
If I read it right: the government is paying for commercial (phone) location data. There are 3 issues:
- creepy: the government shouldn't have this
- costly: they are buying it with our tax dollars
- comprehensive (?): They are getting everything (money can buy)?
If the government were to require this (like via a search warrant) rather than pay for it it would go through a mountain of legal oversight. It seems like the interpretation is: commercially available = publically available.
I guess what I would want to know next is: who gets access to this?
Perhaps most controversially, the report states that the government believes it can “persistently” track the phones of “millions of Americans” without a warrant, so long as it pays for the information. Were the government to simply demand access to a device's location instead, it would be considered a Fourth Amendment “search” and would require a judge's sign-off. But because companies are willing to sell the information—not only to the US government but to other companies as well—the government considers it “publicly available” and therefore asserts that it “can purchase it.”
Basically, they're buying the profiles corporations already have on you. It isn't just to sell you pasta sauce; your shoppers' card also helps build a government profile on you.
Yeah, exactly this. While I'm somewhat uneasy that a huge corporation has a bunch of data on me the most they can do with it is spam me. When the government has the same data their power is orders of magnitude greater and who knows how what you may have said 10 years ago can be used against you now.
There is a reason they're not allowed to have this data without a warrant. Just because this data is for sale doesn't mean they suddenly have the right to it. The power of the government is too great to trust with this, and we all know it, which is why those protections exist in the first place.
IMO, this is also a reminder, however, that the US needs better privacy laws in general. It won't always be just to spam you.
Think about your buying habits and consider whether they might be useful to, say, an insurance broker.
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