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submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

From time to time I will see a post that is like “don’t buy THING because COMPANY is screwing their employees”. In most cases, I am willing to believe that the company is screwing there employees, I work for a company, I know how business leaders think. But here is the thing, if you want me to help you, I need you to help your self first, and that means unionizing.

When the writers strike happened over the residuals on streaming services, I canceled my subscriptions. I don’t by Coffee from non-unionized Starbucks. I canceled my Prime account when Amazon was doing all their union busting. When my truck delivery was delayed by Ford because auto workers were striking, I called Ford customer service every day saying “pay them so I can get my truck or I will buy something else”. I am a member of the working class and I will support my fellow working class members.

But if you are going to agree to bad employment contracts and let the business people screw you because you don’t think you need to unionize. Sorry buddy, I am not going to help you when shit hits the fan.

I am looking at you Software Developers, I am looking at you IT Professionals, I am looking at you every employee in every fucking industry. Help yourself now before it is too late.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Not agreeing to bad employment contracts means being unemployed. All employment contracts are bad.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

And you fix that problem by unionizing and renegotiating.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Worth adding - let's all shop from unionized businesses whenever possible. There's strength in solidarity.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Or better yet, worker-owned coops.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Absolute victim blaming, capitalist bullshit. Go fuck yourself.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 17 hours ago

How is telling people they need to unionize capitalist? If anything its Marxist, seas the means of production now before they screw you over and I will stand by you comrade.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

hard agree

People act as if the everyday person has this imaginary power. That's going to make things better. No. Collected efforts have this power that makes things better. And for some stupid reason, at least in the US, we are extremely against using that power.

people would rather try to support it as an individual instead of support it as a collective, so instead of it being an actual impact, it's only like a drop in the bucket that the companies can ignore. all for a pittance of extra income.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Its a lot easier said than done, esspecially in an easy-to-enter, oversaturated field like tech or retail. There are so many workers, its hard to organize on a meaningful scale, and the barrier to entry is often low enough that the company can fire the whole team and have a new one overnight. So far as I can think of, the only fields sharing a similar low barrier to entry and abundance of workers, that has successfully unionised are all in hollywood, with things like writting and acting, where there was far more money involved.

Thats not to say people shouldn't unionise or that its impossible, but given the current state of the economy its also absurd to directly put blame on those who are most vulnerable, least likely to succeeded, and most likely to face retaliation.

If you're going to victum blame, it should really be on senior staff that are harder to replace, and other unions for not showing more support. Or, you could just blame the people actually responsible: the rich and powerful who built and maintain the current system.

Edit: Just to provide an example for context: Stats are iffy, but most seem to agree that about 15 million people work in retail the US. You'll need a significant portion of the workforce in the union to be able to negotiate. Its obviously more complicated than a straight percentage, but for the sake of example, we'll say you need 20% membership. That means you'll need a union (or collective of unions) of 3 million people, matching the NEA and dwarfing unions like the Teamsters, SEIU, and United Auto Workers. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but this isn't a simple or easy process. For those involved, its risky or outright dangerous, and they'll need all the support they can get if they want to have any chance of success.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

But if you are going to agree to bad employment contracts and let the business people screw you

Hold on, let me get my helmet ...

https://youtu.be/wbq571QME2Y?t=30

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Are you helping them form unions, or just casting feces from an ivory tower?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

I smell something

this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2025
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