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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Democracy, in the hands of the proletariat, not the bourgeoisie. The government should oppress the capitalist class and uplift the proletariat, political power should be stripped from capitalists and lay with the proletariat instead. This is the "dictatorship of the proletariat" over the bourgeoisie.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Experience shows democracies work better in just about every way. Mainly, there's questions about how stable they can be over the long term.

I've known people who liked the idea of a dictatorship, but they've all had funny ideas about how they internally work. Palace intrigue and corruption are inevitable and huge, it's never just one potentially-wise individual calling the shots.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Everyone is pro-dictatorship until they realise they're not the dictator.

[-] DominatorX1 -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So you could say that both suffer from a vulnerability. Both break eventually.

Also, consider the attractiveness of dictatorship. I think that everybody would like to be a dictator. Who wants to share power? Not me. I want to be in control, of my forum, my project, my game.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dictatorship had a pretty clean run of several thousand years there. Sure, dynasties changed, but never the actual system.

Also, consider the attractiveness of dictatorship. I think that everybody would like to be a dictator. Who wants to share power? Not me. I want to be in control, of my forum, my project, my game.

So, my second paragraph kind of addresses that. It's never actually about one person having the power, as a government system.

One-person control over something, backed by externally imposed laws, is a completely different thing. You don't have to worry about your forum members poisoning you and physically taking control of your server.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

you think ancient and medieval monarchies were dictatorships? uh...

[-] DominatorX1 -1 points 1 day ago

Well the breaking here is the corruption. The 2 different flavors of that. Still ostensibly dictatorship or democracy but not.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Why do some of the questions asked in this sub make it sound like the OP's first day as a human being?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don't know, but the way they're answered often ends up being very interesting.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago

Non-partisan democracy, as the founding fathers intended.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Misinformed.

The founding fathers of the USA never mentioned democracy in the constitution nor declaration of independence.

In their writings, they only ever used the word as a pejorative: https://founders.archives.gov/?q=democracy&s=1111211111&sa=&r=1&sr=

"we are not so absurd as to “design a Democracy,” of which the Governor is pleased to accuse us"

"You would have torn up the Foundations and demolished the whole Fabrick of the Government, and have suffered Democracy... to have arisen in its Place."

Are those the founding fathers you're talking about?

[-] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago

From Wikipedia: "Historians have frequently interpreted Federalist No. 10 to imply that the Founding Fathers of the United States intended the government to be nonpartisan."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-partisan_democracy?wprov=sfla1

I'm not reading all of that btw.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Democratic dictatorship of the proletariat

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I love them all equally Care-Comrade

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Democracy, obviously. No it doesn't change if I'm the dictator.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Democracy, like mostly anyone. But it depends on anyone's conception, here.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Dictatorship by a wide margin. Why should the parliament squabble over a law for months, possibly years, when under a dictatorship said law could be enacted instantly? Also with democracy every politician just thinks about getting elected, not the actual long-term needs of the country.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The squabbling process moves the law toward meeting the needs of more people. If a dictator just gets to decide what the law is, they'll likely be self-serving to the dictator, or even outright harmful to entire categories of people.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The squabbling process moves the law toward meeting the needs of more people.

Are there data on this?

You're making a causal claim (if squabbling, then more needs met) and that's either empirically true or not.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to election theory, a dictatorship is the only perfectly fair voting system: the only voter wins the vote, every time.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Who would realistically say dictator? Putin?

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Democracty, if people do bad choices it's the people problem not democracy . If the leader of the dictatorship is bad nothing can be done

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Depends on the dictator, depends on the democracy. Ideally neither, but democracies are usually less awful than dictatorships.

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