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[–] 150 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Sorry to go all Godwin's law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.

Ultimately, it's not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it's okay.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Never trust someone else's imaginary friend over one's own.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Here's a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Eh not giving up my kinks, but everyone needs to have the right to say no or it's not fun.

    (sorry, the homebrewed anamist theism is too fun right now, and i got a puppy boy that's counting on me so... upvotes for thoroughness and enthusiasm)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Religion has been the single most detrimental invention of humankind since civilization's dawn.

    To the other point, since nearly that same catalyzing point in our history, undying Truth itself can be found in the loving eyes of a goodest boy. (source: my own life has been saved by one on more than a few occasions and ways. 🙇🏼‍♂️🐕🥰)

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Nancy Reagan had an astrologer.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Given the chance, Saturn would remove women's right to vote.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).

    Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It is legit frustrating to see "my superstition never hurt anyone" in the minority very quickly become "we're rounding up all the non-believers" as soon as that same group get an ounce of power.

    FFS, waves hand at Israel. Also, the Mormons, the Scientologists, Jonestown...

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for "manglik" for starters.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    One of the weirdest far-right slurs I've seen flung at Muslims is "Moon Worshiper". Like, someone on AM Radio must have gone on a serious tear, because it comes up in reactionary church sermons and Facebook posts and the occasional Congressional exchange.

    Something about having even a casual association with extraterrestrial bodies really sets Christian Conservatives off.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    If the moon doesn't oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?

    Checkmate, atheists astrologists!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Thats only cis women though.

    And also some trans men.

    And some genderqueers.

    So...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    in other news, you're not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Depends how fine a mesh youre using, moisture content, all sorts of stuff im.not an expert in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    okay, yes, I agree, but your mesh is poor in the point you were making. It's not transphobic to say that society is misogynistic if it makes life hard for people with afab anatomy. And uh... that the moon is oppressing women too I guess? What were we even talking about...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Rebellion against heaven, mocking the laws of man and god as we shatter the spheres of oppression that mock us nightly and, you know... Do stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    sounds like we're in agreement

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    But not because they're bigot-rocks, just because its cool. Whether they're bigot rocks or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    might be bigot-rocks, but it could just be cheese. We should send some witchy astronauts up to double-check :)

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    I dunno, I've heard many women and gays complaining that Mercury is retrograding them, or something. /s

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  • there's one star that is oppressing albino women and gays though

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Only people can oppress people.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    A lot of folk religions exalt third genders and women into religious positions. It is the major world religions who put down women and third genders are the problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Hey, if the stars and planets affect people's behaviour... Just saying.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    One could argue that they lift people up, since there's a slight canceling of the effect of Earth's gravity when they're over head. Conversely, the opposite is true when they're on the other side of the planet.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The gravitational effect is only meaningful from the Moon and the Sun.

    The Moon obviously affects the tides, and is very, very slowly making our days longer.

    The Sun is ... you know, the center of the Solar System, defines our entire orbit, our year.

    Nothing else is massive enough or close enough to have a meaningful gravitational impact.

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