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[-] [email protected] 147 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry to go all Godwin's law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.

Ultimately, it's not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it's okay.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Never trust someone else's imaginary friend over one's own.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Here's a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

We will only be free when the last monarch is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Repair world hunger with a woodchipper & fertilizer tumbler... Yeet The Rich.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Eh not giving up my kinks, but everyone needs to have the right to say no or it's not fun.

(sorry, the homebrewed anamist theism is too fun right now, and i got a puppy boy that's counting on me so... upvotes for thoroughness and enthusiasm)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Religion has been the single most detrimental invention of humankind since civilization's dawn.

To the other point, since nearly that same catalyzing point in our history, undying Truth itself can be found in the loving eyes of a goodest boy. (source: my own life has been saved by one on more than a few occasions and ways. 🙇🏼‍♂️🐕🥰)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Religion is a lot like genitals, enjoy yours in places that people are cool with that happening but only share them with the willing and don't be an asshole just because someone else's are different.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nancy Reagan had an astrologer.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nancy Reagan has an astrologer.

Does he pack a shovel if she calls him?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Changed my verb tense. :)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Reagan too. Basically his whole second term was just his astrologer.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago

Given the chance, Saturn would remove women's right to vote.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Typical Saturn energy.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dammit Saturn I thought you were cool

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).

Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It is legit frustrating to see "my superstition never hurt anyone" in the minority very quickly become "we're rounding up all the non-believers" as soon as that same group get an ounce of power.

FFS, waves hand at Israel. Also, the Mormons, the Scientologists, Jonestown...

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for "manglik" for starters.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Extremely white bitch. I got it too!

It turns out shit people will use anything as an excuse to be shit. Makes dating hard(er).

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

my boy andres had a girl reject him just because he's a vigo

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One of the weirdest far-right slurs I've seen flung at Muslims is "Moon Worshiper". Like, someone on AM Radio must have gone on a serious tear, because it comes up in reactionary church sermons and Facebook posts and the occasional Congressional exchange.

Something about having even a casual association with extraterrestrial bodies really sets Christian Conservatives off.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That is kinda weird, but I don't think it's that much weirder than some random wannabe slur with "cross" in it.

Those morons just have seen the symbols of Islam and don't know what they symbolise or where they come from, or that they in fact aren't the objects of worship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_Islam

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

If the moon doesn't oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?

Checkmate, ~~atheists~~ astrologists!

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Thats only cis women though.

And also some trans men.

And some genderqueers.

So...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

in other news, you're not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depends how fine a mesh youre using, moisture content, all sorts of stuff im.not an expert in.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

okay, yes, I agree, but your mesh is poor in the point you were making. It's not transphobic to say that society is misogynistic if it makes life hard for people with afab anatomy. And uh... that the moon is oppressing women too I guess? What were we even talking about...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Rebellion against heaven, mocking the laws of man and god as we shatter the spheres of oppression that mock us nightly and, you know... Do stuff.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

sounds like we're in agreement

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But not because they're bigot-rocks, just because its cool. Whether they're bigot rocks or not.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dunno, I've heard many women and gays complaining that Mercury is retrograding them, or something. /s

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

there's one star that is oppressing albino women and gays though

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Only people can oppress people.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A lot of folk religions exalt third genders and women into religious positions. It is the major world religions who put down women and third genders are the problem.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

One could argue that they lift people up, since there's a slight canceling of the effect of Earth's gravity when they're over head. Conversely, the opposite is true when they're on the other side of the planet.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The gravitational effect is only meaningful from the Moon and the Sun.

The Moon obviously affects the tides, and is very, very slowly making our days longer.

The Sun is ... you know, the center of the Solar System, defines our entire orbit, our year.

Nothing else is massive enough or close enough to have a meaningful gravitational impact.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Right, the post mentions "the Moon and stars." Last I checked, the Moon is still the Moon and the Sun is a star.

Also, I didn't say anything about the effect being meaningful. An effect that is non-zero is still an effect even if it is negligible.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, if the stars and planets affect people's behaviour... Just saying.

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