▲ 175 ▼ Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees? (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 263 comments fedilink hide all child comments Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!
[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (5 children) Why is the difference between immigrant and ex patriot? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Ex patriot is a whitewashing term for immigrant. Because immigrants has a negative connotation so whites had to make up another term so they could differentiate themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago That is what I figured. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Expatriate” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Buddy I already have. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] rf_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago If you migrate from a rich country to a poor country you’re an expat. If you migrate from a poor country to a rich country you’re an immigrant and you’re both lazy and taking all the jobs and welfare and healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago No, the difference is whether you are just residing outside your home country or actually immigrating to the new country. It is the difference between a vacation and moving somewhere. It is more along the lines of external patriot than former patriot. Someone who still sees themselves as a citizen of their home country and just happens to live elsewhere is an expat. So an American living in Mexico is an expat, no matter what their length of stay is. If they immigrate, they are moving permanently and they see themselves as a part of the new country, either by seeking citizenship or claiming that as their 'home' as part of their identity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) silly responses here... the actual difference is permanence. immigration is relocating your life. expatriating is an extended vacation. it has the white guy connotation because white people usually stay temporarily, they dont immigrate for life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) My post was a bit tongue in cheek. I was pretty sure it was just peops not wanting to say immigrant even if they are staying forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago maybe! there is probably also some joy in saying that you're leaving the old world behind permalink fedilink source parent [–] SorryImLate@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ex patriots move to work in a foreign country for a limited period, with the intention of returning to their home country. Typically these are white collar workers who move between their employer's offices for 2-3 years and then return home. Immigrants move with the intention of staying in the new country long term. However, with the negative connotations attached to immigrants, some people - primarily white, highly educated people - incorrectly refer to themselves as expats, even once it's clear they intend to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I’ve seen a lot of online hate for expats permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Ex patriot is a whitewashing term for immigrant. Because immigrants has a negative connotation so whites had to make up another term so they could differentiate themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago That is what I figured. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Expatriate” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Buddy I already have. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago That is what I figured. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Expatriate” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Buddy I already have. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Buddy I already have. ✌️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rf_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago If you migrate from a rich country to a poor country you’re an expat. If you migrate from a poor country to a rich country you’re an immigrant and you’re both lazy and taking all the jobs and welfare and healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago No, the difference is whether you are just residing outside your home country or actually immigrating to the new country. It is the difference between a vacation and moving somewhere. It is more along the lines of external patriot than former patriot. Someone who still sees themselves as a citizen of their home country and just happens to live elsewhere is an expat. So an American living in Mexico is an expat, no matter what their length of stay is. If they immigrate, they are moving permanently and they see themselves as a part of the new country, either by seeking citizenship or claiming that as their 'home' as part of their identity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago No, the difference is whether you are just residing outside your home country or actually immigrating to the new country. It is the difference between a vacation and moving somewhere. It is more along the lines of external patriot than former patriot. Someone who still sees themselves as a citizen of their home country and just happens to live elsewhere is an expat. So an American living in Mexico is an expat, no matter what their length of stay is. If they immigrate, they are moving permanently and they see themselves as a part of the new country, either by seeking citizenship or claiming that as their 'home' as part of their identity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) silly responses here... the actual difference is permanence. immigration is relocating your life. expatriating is an extended vacation. it has the white guy connotation because white people usually stay temporarily, they dont immigrate for life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) My post was a bit tongue in cheek. I was pretty sure it was just peops not wanting to say immigrant even if they are staying forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago maybe! there is probably also some joy in saying that you're leaving the old world behind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) My post was a bit tongue in cheek. I was pretty sure it was just peops not wanting to say immigrant even if they are staying forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago maybe! there is probably also some joy in saying that you're leaving the old world behind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago maybe! there is probably also some joy in saying that you're leaving the old world behind permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SorryImLate@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ex patriots move to work in a foreign country for a limited period, with the intention of returning to their home country. Typically these are white collar workers who move between their employer's offices for 2-3 years and then return home. Immigrants move with the intention of staying in the new country long term. However, with the negative connotations attached to immigrants, some people - primarily white, highly educated people - incorrectly refer to themselves as expats, even once it's clear they intend to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I’ve seen a lot of online hate for expats permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I’ve seen a lot of online hate for expats permalink fedilink source parent