Now if only they'd support Graphene OS or something like that. Preferably signed, so that banking apps would have a chance of working.
In the long run bonus - Linux support would be nice too.
Fairphones are pretty well supported with PostmarketOS which is mainline Linux. Audio support being one big feature that is missing on all of them. Luca Weiss from Fairphone is working on mainline Linux patches for these devices. The Fairphone 6 booted with Linux support on the first day it was released (though still missing many drivers)
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Category:Fairphone
I wish Fairphone would hire more People to work on Linux support
Audio seems like kinda important, you know, for a phone...
@rollerbang @[email protected] CalyxOS/LineageOS/postmarketOS/UBTouch and/or /e/OS would be better for trying to get banking support, they are compatible with plenty more devices including Google Pixel while GrapheneOS is only compatible with Google Pixel
Sure, but I'm trying to see it from a manufacturer's perspective. They've got to put effort in an OS regardless, so maybe it wouldn't be too much extra effort, if any, to have Grapehene supported.
It would require an entire separate TPM chip, integration of it on the main PCB, and all the the firmware and software handling that comes with that, and collaboration with the GrapheneOS team (which I hear on forums and people who have worked with them, is often not a pleasant experience) for an extremely small percentage of their sales.
Doing /e/ or calyx would definitely be significantly easier.
I hear all of that, but I'm going to maintain some hope since otherwise I'm stuck on google hardware for the foreseeable future.
Is calyxos not good enough for you?
Indeed.
This phone is so niche that the only OS that it only makes sense to work in being compatible with GrapheneOS, the crรจme de la crรจme of custom OSes.
I'd just ship from Pixel immediately if Fairphone ups their game to the point GrapheneOS wants to work with them.
I at least hope they would put effort to non Android OS. Why put effort to Android OS if most people would like get rid of USA dependency? I would love them to offer support for SailfishOS, which can still run Android apps in container and most of them work, including a lot of banking apps
"Most of them work" is a far cry from "all of them work perfectly as if they were running on Android itself".
Lets turn the sentence around, and see how it feels: "Some apps won't work at all". Very scary sentence for consumers with different expectations.
I wantnto say thst i really really like the way SailfishOS looks, those gnome icons are unmatched in phones.
I just don't think Sailfish OS is ready for daily use at all. Like, it needs a few more years in the oven before it can be even considered for mass consumption. These small companies unfortunately need to play it safe.
Yes Android is US-based but it's also open-source. Doesn't mean that fact can't change of course, but I don't see better EU alternatives ATM.
My banking app works great on /e/os.
Mine does not sadly. Locked and all, but still it wonโt do it.
Isn't e/os build on graphene?
https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system
e/os, for the fairphone 4 at least, is based on lineageOS.
Yeah you're right, I misremembered
the moment this happens I am switching (after my current phone dies that is)
Such a cool phone. We need more like this.
It's what every phone should have to be like.
Honestly quite the downgrade in some departments imo. You cant swap the battery without a screwdriver anymore (was great for hiking with a secondary battery) and no USB3 which also means no DP over USBC.
Actually to me that's an improvement as my back plate, and thus my battery, has come loose causing the phone to sometimes turn off when it falls.
cant swap the battery without a screwdriver anymore
The horror. Imagine using any other phone where you can't take the battery out at all (at least until 2027 when all phones will be forced to have removable batteries).
I think Fairphone has bigger contentions to deal with than having to use a screwdriver.
Comparing to most other smartphones, I agree with you.
But compared to previous Fairphones, this is a downgrade.
But yeah, there are other issues, like the USB downgrade, which is not great.
I lost a motorola battery off a cliff I wasn't even standing particularly near once while attempting a battery swap... I suppose I succeeded at swapping the battery at least.
... With a 3.5mm audio jack.
Old phones were like this! It was super easy to replace screens, batteries, etc. on smartphones 10 years ago. Then everything became glued, sealed, and enshittified.
And a 2/10 for global availability
Regulations, my friend. You can't just willy nilly sell it everywhere, at least not officially.
The workaround is find a mail forwarder or a reseller. Clove Technology ships worldwide (be ware of potential import taxes).
Can you get these in the US?
Only on https://murena.com/ with e/os
I really want to support this project but my phone is still working perfectly thanks to the Lineage team.
I hope native support for SailfishOS!
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