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[–] 221 points 1 year ago (14 children)

If you're in the EU, you should still sign; extra signatures will be useful if it turns out some of them are invalid.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    To be clear... If you have already signed, thank you but do not sign again.

    (I know that's not what you wanted to say, I just want to make sure it's not misunderstood).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Does it not stop you from signing multiple times? The UK one tells you you've already signed it when you try again. I tried it again recently in case i was misremembering signing the second petition after the first one was misunderstood completely by the uk government.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oddly, the EU one just has a checkbox that you need to check to confirm that you haven’t signed before. I’m guessing removal of duplicates happens only after closing, along with other data validation.

    I thought this strange at first too, but I think it’s because of the disparate identification methods in different countries. If everyone had a digital ID card instant checking would be doable, but note it probably isn’t.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's not true. It depends on the country. In certain countries it will tell you if your identification number had been used before.

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    [–] 138 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Fresh update video from Ross about the campaign.

    TL;DW:

    • There's a chance many of the signatures for the EU petition aren't real. Keep signing to build up a safety margin. Official suggestions are: 10% more minimum, 20% pretty OK, up to 40% more for an actual safety net.
    • Some countries had problems with signing using the digital ID system - suggests to use the manual method (instructions on the campaign page) or try again later.
    • Someone not related with the campaign released a SKG crypto. Don't touch it, obviously.
    • Ross heard about people harassing Pirate Software, asks to stop.
    • He's got a lot of messages to reply to, prioritises ones important to the campaign for now.
    • UK petition cleared 100k signatures. Number is most likely more reliable than the EU one.
    • Link about contacting UK MP's for those who want to do more than just sign a petition.
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  • [–] 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Definitely keep signing, I'm really concerned at the speed it rose , and I'm really hoping there wasn't something else at play here.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    I'm glad. But don't get your hopes up because of this. Commission could (and probably will) just say "we have considered it and we are going to do nothing".

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I think the commission will take action in some form. The worst case scenario in my mind is that they will only require clear labelling. Similar to what they did with smart phones recently. While this not exactly what I am hoping for, having "This game will at least be playable until XXXX" on the package or store page would still be a massive improvement over the status quo.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I dont understand how such a broad requirement would work. They just have to pick some arbitrary date, and then after that they can continue as things currently are? Can you give an example of a game where this type of labelling would have helped?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    'The Crew' by Ubisoft was sold for several months before they decided to shut it down. This would have at least forced them to communicate that before taking peoples money. I am also pretty sure that publishers don't want to put this information on the package because it could seriously hurt sales. So the effect of this labelling requirement might be that publishers build the game in a way that enables self-hosting.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    They are supposed to meet with the seven people who first put the initiative forward. It won't change their minds if they're already against the initiative but if they don't care it may sway them to hear it explained to them. I have zero expectations since EU bureaucrats live in a parallel dimension but there's some hope something happens.

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    About my lowest threshold for success is that this at least makes disclosures about what you're buying more prominent and restricts the ability for software licenses to just alter the deal and pray that they don't alter them further. Even better disclosures would make the raw deal you're getting become more poisonous before the point of sale. Especially as an American, I'm going to have wait a few years after any legislation goes through before I can trust online multiplayer games again.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    This should not stop, the more the merry and also to ensure to filter out anomalies. 34k have already signed pass the million

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    It's good to see. The UK one is still ticking upward too (133.5k/100k). It's been an impressive last minute push.

    Now, we wait and see I guess. I expect nothing useful to come from the UK one, but at least we force them to respond again. Even if it is the same response.

    The EU one, I really do hope something comes of it.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    At the current rate (which may or may not hold and may or may not be legitimate) the initiative should beat “One of Us”, the biggest one yet with 1.9M signatures (pro-life, ultimately did nothing).

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yay! I'm one in a million!

    Can we move for a Stop Killing People now!? :)

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    I swear this is not me doomering (I very much support this campaign and even signed it myself half a year ago), but I strongly suspect that at least a good chunk of those are fake. The issue is very hot in "terminally online" circles and those are the kind of people who don't really think things through before acting.

    I hope the number will keep on growing until the "legit" votes make up for the fake ones.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ich bin dabei 🙋🏼‍♂️

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, that requirement has already been met. The final requirement (which has just been met now) is to reach a total of 1 million signatures. Basically, all requirements are now satisfied

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Keep it going, let's see how much more we can get people to sign, let's aim for 1.2

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