I think this could’ve great if it was an open standard but that’s not the apple way.
Don’t forget, FaceTime will be an open standard, aaaaany time now https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/07/apple_announces_open_standard_facetime_video_chat_for_iphone_4
I never understood the complaint. If iPhone users don't like the way Apple messaging works with Android contacts, they can just use an alternative like Whatsapp. Right?
I mean the right answer is something like Signal, but you have to really beat on people for that.
Or they can bitch at Apple to fix their SMS/MMS problems.
Why would anyone want to sms? Modern messaging is much nicer experience.
Their problem is that iMessage falls back to that instead of them adopting RCS, and treats MMS in particular way worse (terrible image quality, etc)
None of my android friends use RCS
It's mostly an issue that android users in the US don't use what's app
Facebook Messenger is more popular than WhatsApp here. So it's not like there aren't alternatives.
The point is that it's not really Android users' problem. There are options for iPhone users and, yes, if they really want to use the native iPhone messaging app they can complain to Tim Apple. Cc: @[email protected]
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Android users themselves don't care about modern messaging features. Some people do tho.
Are you implying that the RCS that comes with Google Messages is significantly less modern than whatever ships with iPhones?
Edit: Or, are you saying that most Android users wouldn't care if that was the case?
I can't see this actually being a big deal, like at all, lmao. This assumes everyone cares or even knows the implications of a contact poster, and you can even make them for contacts that haven't made one themselves. If you automatically think "ew Android!" when someone didn't make a contact poster (when they can literally be on iOS, but not make one), you have issues.
RCS could have been great if e2e were baked in from the start. Apple would not have had such a strong argument to stay with its own standard and we might not have found ourselves with this divide.
Idk, I see this as a plus. It sucks when one android user in a group chat gimps file sharing for everyone.
it sucks when Apple gimps file sharing for everyone by refusing to use standards
Fixed it for you. If Apple supported RCS this wouldn't happen. But I guess you prefer to follow Tim Cook's monopolistic solution and buy them an iPhone /s.
RCS doesn't have a cross-platform end-to-end encryption solution. For cross-platform communication, cross-platform 3rd party solutions such as Signal work well.
RCS would still be a benefit to incorporate without the E2E solution, as it would improve nearly every other aspect of communication over SMS/MMS.
I 100% agree that Apple wrong for not supporting RCS (and I am an iPhone user). However, I personally choose to only use E2E for my communication be that iMessage or Signal.
@RandomBit @jmcs I prefer #Matrix.
I don't find #Signal or #Telegram (which is worse, it's basically a honeypot) to be particularly secure, but I don't see anything other than something like those platforms catching on with the masses as a sort of #USA-centric #Whatsapp-style replacement for text messaging.
Both #Apple and #Google need to come up with a consensus on the successor for #MMS, or else I could see another platform or app replacing both.
What security issues does Signal have?
@RandomBit I'm not aware of exactly what issues #Signal has, but I know it's centralized so I'm not a big fan of that
Yes, it's not ideal. Decentralized key distribution seems to be a intractable problem for mass adoption.
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