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submitted 6 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

They’ll never implement this, ever again.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Didn't they pass a law in Florida making rank choice illegal preemptively? Yeah the absolute last thing the oligopoly will allow is democracy. Something something the ballot or the bullet

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

One thing that gives me a little investment in electoralism is that we all know the old quote “if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal.”

Well they’re making it illegal alright.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Ranked choice voting is also a dead end if the choices are constrained. In Australia we have ranked voting and mandatory voting, but net result is a centre-left and centre-right party who we flip between every 3/6/9 years with some shuffling around of minor parties. If it's isn't made illegal it's made toothless.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Missouri did this. They had it on the ballot and it said something along the lines “do you want to ban ranked choice voting and also prevent noncitizens from voting?” Shit pisses me tf off cos it easily tricked anyone who didn’t know what ranked choice was (including my lib father who’s in favor of ranked choice as a concept after I explained it to him)

HOW IS A NON CITIZEN GOING TO VOTE YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. YOU LITERALLY JUST HAD YOUR ID SCANED AND YOUR SIGNATURE SCRUTINIZED LESS THAN TWO MINUTES AGO.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Ohio (or at least Columbus) also has this too

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

How would the NYC primary looked different if it wasn't ranked choice. I not sure it actually matters for single seat elections. If you don't rank either of the top 2 candidates it's like your vote won't matter anyways.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Believe it or not but there are many people who would have voted for both Mamdani and Cuomo. They just would rank Cuomintang #1 because they’re sus of a brown person supporting Palestine, but they like Mamdani’s smile so they give him a #2 anyway.

Single choice elections give outsized influence on single issues and make it easier to manipulate the discussion one way or another. All you have to do is build a narrative that Mamdani = bad economics, Mamdani = jihadist, etc. and suddenly his polling collapses even if nobody particularly dislikes him. People are less willing to take a chance if they feel like they can make only one selection.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I think you are looking at past data points from a political system/politicians that dont bother trying to shape the narrative. I think the real thing I hope the Dems take away from this is just believe in something. The top issue according to polling on February was crime. By election time the entire conversation was about different aspects of cost of living transit ect. The ability for zohrans campaign to focus in and change the entire issue slate. From fake crime panic or some other fake wedge issue to something real is something no politician besides Bernie and zohran have done in my lifetime.

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