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I just got a new laptop today and when I saw the ssd it blew my mind. Most of my old drives are like the second from left and it's what I think of as a normal drive, buying a standard ssd still feels small to me. But look at that tiny thing to the right! It's the size of a postage stamp!

Assuming I managed to find the right specs (it is a Microscience hh-1050): The monster on the far left is from 1990, holds 40mb, read/write of 0.625mb/s, and weighs almost exactly 2kg. The baby on the far right I got in the mail today, holds 1tb, read/write of 5150mb/s, and weighs about 2.85 grams.

So we're looking at 25,000 times more storage, 8,240 times faster, and 1/700th the weight! And the one on the right is just 1tb, they make one that same model but 2tb. I can barely believe it exists even though I'm literally holding it in my hands.

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[-] [email protected] 104 points 6 days ago

And Apple be like. 128gb HDD or upgrade to a 512gb SSD for $600 extra or a 1tb nvme for $1000 extra

[-] [email protected] 70 points 6 days ago

Their customers buy it, so they arent changing that

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

lack of education is Apple's bread and butter.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

That’s Windows users, Apple at least has to make it difficult for users to install something else

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

To their credit as of 4 years ago all their devices come with high-speed SSDs, the issue is they charge 5x market price for storage and RAM size upgrades.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Apple livea on the notion of 'a fool and his money are soon parted' and can you blame them? They are one of, if not the, most profitable companies around. If it works why change it.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You could probably store more in a filing cabinet with paper

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago

Wait, 1tb?

You're leaving impact on the table, I have plenty of 1tb micro SD cards.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago

Those drives typically have some pretty dreadful read/write speeds (for a computer). Maybe once SD Express is figured out we'll get fast and good Micro SD cards at a high capacity.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

And they crap out so quickly. I can't even count the number of SD cards I've had to throw in the trash. I don't think I've ever had a 2.5" or 3.5" drive completely crap out on me (though I have had bad SMART data indicative of a dying drive) and I have been running a media server with dozens of TBs for over a decade now.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

This is why for retro computers, I tend to prefer CompactFlash. IDE->CF adapters are cheap, and the cards are much higher quality. They effectively become an SSD that works on old stuff. (Just because I like retro computing stuff doesn't mean I want the whole experience, like waiting for disk heads to move, or worse, tape drives to finish reading. I'm old enough that I remember dealing with it and I don't need to deal with it again.)

Not a lot of call for them otherwise, though. SD cards have gotten increasingly good bandwidth, which means they're good enough for a lot of higher end cameras. CF is getting squeezed out.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I mean, those work fine and are fast. You mean we'll get those for cheap.

In any case, the image is about physical dimensions, and SD cards are tiny! Considering we're comparing to a 40 MB mechanical drive, I'm gonna say the comparison is valid and they aren't even near the bottom of the specs table.

Of course people like it when ALL the specs get better in these things, but that's because people like simple things more than true things.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Kind of hard to see the scale, but the drive that this removable platter would go into, took the full width of a 19" rack.

It once held several megabytes, but now it's a decoration in my office.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Apples and oranges, though. The left two are hard drives, the right two are solid state drives (ie flash memory). They kind of serve the same purpose, but there is quite a big step in between 2 and 3. 2.5" HDDs also exist, though. Then again, so do 1TB MicroSD cards. And 2280 M.2 SSDs. But also huge tapes that are still in use for backup purposes.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

There were even smaller hard drives. The iPod used a 1.8in drive.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've got a full-height 5 1/4" 1GB hard drive around here. Thing is massive.

I've also got most of the storage devices I've ever used over the decades:

  • 5 1/4" floppy
  • 3 1/2" floppy
  • 4mm DAT tape
  • 8mm DAT tape
  • 1/4" QIC tape
  • Zip disk
  • Cassette tape
  • Punched tape

I'm missing the following:

  • DLT tape
  • LTO tape
  • 8" floppy
  • IBM 2315 disk pack

Never used 9-track tapes, punch cards, or removable disk multipacks.

EDIT Don't know how I forgot about cartridges (Atari 400 and 2600 - still got em!) and CDROM/DVD/WORM. I have CDROM, DVDROM (in various formats), but no WORM media (i.e. IBM 3363 - a CDROM in a rigid case, before the official CD standard was created).

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You need a Jazz drive and a mean looking 20mb MFM hard drive that didn't have auto parking.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Funny how optical discs made it onto none of your lists

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Just a brain fart. I've edited my post to reflect them.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I've actually got a little stack of punch cards. It's a program my dad wrote when he was in college, he gave it to me when I started programming

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Meanwhile I'm traveling soon and "packing" microSDs, like... 0.5Tos the size and nearly weight of my fingernail. It's ridiculous!

I considered buying the 2To ones ... but I don't even need them. Even the 0.5To ones it's to carry some video library or Kiwix with Wikipedia and StackOverflow which to be honest I don't even truly need as I can get the content over the Internet anyway.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ahh yes, I remember my first Seagate ST225. A whopping 20 MB of storage for the low low price of 800 bucks.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

The left most one is also an HDD? It looks like what I imagine a tape drive would look like but searching for them shows very different results lol

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Its actually a smaller one too. Those 5 1/4 HDDs could be 2 bays tall.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

In the compsci building at uni, there is a museum of sorts in the hall to the labs. At the beginning of the storage section, there is a 20Mb storage device. It is the size of a washing machine, I have no idea how much it weighs, but it has to be in the 100's of kg range.

Sitting on top are much more modern devices, 5.25"/3.5"/2.5" drives; I haven't been back for a decade to know if they kept going as tech improved.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Is that NVME only half length still with a full TB? It almost looks to be the same size as an M.2 wifi adapter. Crazy that they're getting this small.

I recently bought two cheaper 1TB NVME and have some premium ones from several years ago but they're all the full 80mm length. I have yet to come across ones this small personally.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

2280 seems to be the most common DIY size, 2230 is common for business machines, sometimes in an adapter to fit a normal 2.5" HDD bay or a slot large enough for 2280. I just removed one from the 2280 adapter last week to get data off after the storm came through the east coast.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago

The fact that those measurements are in inches when “2280” means 22mm x 80mm agitates me.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

When the measurement is already in the designation, the only point to adding information is for "translation." It would irk me if someone felt the need to point out a 2280 was 80 mm long while a 2230 was only 30 mm long. I mean it's already in the name...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I mean I appreciate the mention or else I wouldn't have learned it

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I remember being astounded by the 8GB backup tapes that fit in my shirt pocket.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I remember all the formats shown.

My first machine was an AST Research 286 16Mhz (in "turbo" mode) with two 5-1/4" floppy drives, and a 40 MB 5-1/4" hard drive. I paid ~$2000 for it in the late 80s. That was a good move, I knew more about computers than most people applying for jobs at the time, and that allowed me to make a decent living without a college degree.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

And somewhere in there is an NVMe as well.

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