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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

That's fine, just pack your shit and close all military bases in nato countries as well.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Of course NATO is not a trusted organization to an administration consisting exclusively of Russian agents.

Seriously, are we sure these assholes even speak English and have English names or is there some cover-up going on?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Gotta make daddy putin happy

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

USA showing again how they are traitors and cowards.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So is it their goal to turn the US into an irrelevant backwater or what?

So far they've introduced bills that diminish their own military force, decimated global trading relationships, now they're trying to back out of the final commitments they have left. By the time 2030 rolls around no one will want to be president because they'll have no power.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Hol up. Didn't NATO guy wank all over daddy's boobs already?

[-] [email protected] 35 points 5 hours ago

US: "NATO members need to up their defense spending!"

NATO: "Okay, we'll do it."

US: "Actually, We're leaving NATO." 🤡

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago

wow, even after NATO members helped US.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

Yep, the USA likes to complain about Europe being security freeloaders, but the only member to ever invoke Article 5 was the USA.

[-] [email protected] 89 points 12 hours ago

Honestly, the American far-right unknowingly dismantling US global hegemony piece by piece is pretty sick

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Just when I warmed up to the idea that NATO was a necessary evil to counter Putin's worse evil.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 11 hours ago

they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.

the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous.

That plan doesn't work. It assumes that the rest of the world just sits back and takes their crap lying down which isn't happening. They genuinely think they can just take over Greenland and nothing would happen. I don't know if they're intelligent or not, but they're definitely delusional.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

They’ve handily proven time and time again in recent memory how they can in fact just do things and the rest of the world will sit back and take it lying down, though. That’s the problem. Anyone who thinks it’s just an America issue or something like that grievously misunderstands the tenuous house of cards that the pax americana and era of modern peace is built upon. Realistically, how far are you willing to go to prevent fascism? Would you die for it? Would you crawl through the trenches in a land many seas away from home? Some people might say yes but realistically most Westerners and others would never dare give up their creature comforts. It’s not delusional to think the world can change in the way they suggest precisely because they’ve suggested it - that is the hallmark of the fascist movement and what ties their collective ethos together, a philosophy of domination in all aspects.

Idk in short, I agree that yeah these people are certainly morally bankrupt. Lots of them are delusional. Any group of people has some like that. That doesn’t mean we should strawman them. There’s lots of idiots and they might think the US could invade Greenland without causing an international crisis. Either fortunately or unfortunately, these aren’t the people saying that the US wants to own Greenland or that we should go to war with Iran, for example.

The people who control and run this movement are not delusional. They’re dangerous.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

One goal was to increase defense burden-sharing with allies. but withdraw from NATO wasn't a project goal.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Oh yeah, they have a plan all right.

Now, the plan isn't any good and everyone gets screwed, even them.

But it is, technically speaking, a plan!

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