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[–] 284 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

Look how stupid your country is, to hand the death of NATO to Putin because you’re on his side.

Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.

Fuck you.

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    [–] 136 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Just removing the US from another world stage

    Soon we will be completely irrelevant

    Which is the plan

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    [–] 114 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Honestly, the American far-right unknowingly dismantling US global hegemony piece by piece is pretty sick

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    [–] 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As directed by Vladamir Putin.

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    [–] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What's next? Helping Russia in their wars? I hope it was fucking worth it to "own the libs."

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    [–] 83 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    france was right all along

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    [–] 76 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They want out because it's stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

    US: We want you to spend more on defence!
    Europe: Ok, we will buy more, from our own companies!
    US: That's not what I meant! I'm going home!

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    [–] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If the US leaves NATO, Europe would lose a lot of support.

    If the US stays in NATO, they would refuse to support them anyway and could use their veto power to stop any potential action.

    If they're not going to have the support of the US military either way, and the US staying in NATO could prevent the organization from taking any action at all, it may be in the best interest of Europe for the US to leave NATO so they can't cripple it from within.

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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This took longer than I thought it would. It seemed like a priority during trump’s 1st term, then it stalled.

    Given some of Putin’s comments lately, he seems increasingly restless. I wonder if this is related to that?

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's preparing to attack the Baltics.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I would say the rest of NATO should be able to hold against Russia for sure, especially in its current state.

    I would just be worried about short-term problems because of disrupted logistics due to the US withdrawing. Or maybe that other countries would follow the US in leaving.

    But in the end, that is just my guess.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    US: "NATO members need to up their defense spending!"

    NATO: "Okay, we'll do it."

    US: "Actually, We're leaving NATO." 🤡

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    [+] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (27 children)
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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is literally the behavior of a traitor

    Seriously, what happened USA? You were never the best, not even close, you were one of the worst, but st least you tried. Now you just kinda dropped pretence and went full asshole

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's fine, just pack your shit and close all military bases in nato countries as well.

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    [–] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does the bill include all military installation closures and those that are on European territories? For example Greenland. If MAGA wants out, then GTFO and I do not want hear any crying afterwards because that will give the Europeans every excuse not purchase US made weapons. I'm certain US MIC lobbyists will weasel their way in to tear apart the bill.

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    If they're going to withdraw then why are they strong arming all the other nations to spending 5% GDP on defense? If they're not in NATO, who gives a fuck what they want?

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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    I'm not saying Donald is a russian asset... But what more could daddy vladdy wish for?

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Incredible to observe the rapid (self)destruction of US. I'm just waiting for a couple of states to declare independence. Within a 5-10 years USA will be history like the Sovjet Union; it will break down into smaller countries.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mike Lee is obviously a fucking traitor lol Americans stand up for your country and shoot the motherfucker

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I had so many brain dead idiots attack me over at Reddit, for claiming America would withdraw from NATO if trump won. They weren’t just Americans, but also Europeans.

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    Honestly, NATO might be better off without them

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    [+] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    Of course NATO is not a trusted organization to an administration consisting exclusively of Russian agents.

    Seriously, are we sure these assholes even speak English and have English names or is there some cover-up going on?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's just stirring shit to get his name out there isn't he?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Utahns generally don't like to draw attention to themselves as firebrands (e.g. Mitt Romney, Orrin Hatch), so methinks the Senator is planning to get into the 2028 presidential primary.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    wow, even after NATO members helped US.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Isn't this the same psycho whose reaction to Minnesota politicians being assassinated was conspiracy theories?

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    From a Turkish perspective, it's fucking ridiculous for Trump to first convince us to increase the defense budget, then withdraw from the alliance completely. The fuck is his goal?

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    [+] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Well, in a democracy it's important that people who want this can try to make it happen via official procedure, which this is.

    That said, the people who want this are assholes and probably in bed with Russia.

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